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  •  I'm not sure it's as fundamental as that (6+ / 0-)
    Basically, he's saying... If you aren't local and aren't publishing a book, STFU.
    My read, in part, is that Sharyar is cautioning against 1) the facile iteration of memes, and mistaking those memes for reality, and 2) the regurgitation of propaganda and spin serving as bulwarks for what I've elsewhere described as opposed "Romantic" and "Cynical" viewpoints. He's absolutely right that there is a predictable and performative aspect to much of the commentary on Syria.

    Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett)

    by angry marmot on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 06:01:28 AM PDT

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    •  That's true (1+ / 0-)
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      but the boildown is that nothing worthwhile can be said in less than 10000 words and without spending years among the natives.

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 06:04:37 AM PDT

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      •  Well... (2+ / 0-)
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        I'm certainly sympathetic to the view that "nothing worthwhile can be said in less than 10000 words." I always anticipate a few tl;dr comments dropped in my own diaries on MENA :~)

        My takeaway from the piece is clearly different than yours. I see it as a snarky appeal, above all, to resist attempts to render the complex simplistic.

        Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett)

        by angry marmot on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 06:28:36 AM PDT

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      •  much of the debate on Syria reminds me (4+ / 0-)
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        of a bunch of inebriated men in a man cave, discussing the relative strengths of a Tim Tebow vs. a healthy Johnny United in his prime.

        And that's just from our media. Most blogs are even worse.

        I must confess that I added my 1.1 cents to the mix, pointing out that we have been heavily involved in the rebel movement, training, arming, and providing transport and intel to Syrians outside of Syria. Since early 2011.  You would think that would be an important part of the discussion, but few mention it, and most people in the media don't even know that basic fact.

        What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

        by agnostic on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 08:47:47 AM PDT

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        •  There are a whole lot of simple _facts_ of it all (3+ / 0-)
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          that never seem to warrant a mention, and often go totally ignored, even if they're utterly relevant to forming any reasonable conclusions.

          I've noted that on all sides, all over the place, from media to blog commentary. It's maddening.

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