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  •  a) (4+ / 0-)
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    johnny wurster, Garrett, FG, doroma

    republicans might be willing to impeach him over anything, but they aren't going to impeach him over that.

    b) impeaching Obama would boost his popularity and deliver Congress to the Dems in 2014.  It's not going to happen, but if it does, I've got plenty of popcorn.

    Reasonable suspicion? How can being wrong 98.6% of the time ever be reasonable?

    by happymisanthropy on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 05:33:29 PM PDT

    •  I thinks it's an honest calculation (0+ / 0-)

      over international "legitimacy" (not legality), in U.S. government thought.

      Some unknown level of coalitions of the willing and coalitions of the bribed adds up to international legitimacy.

      Since we are in "coalition of more than a few" territory here, without even the UK, resolutions from congress become required. In U.S. executive branch thought.

    •  I think... (1+ / 0-)
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      outofthisworld

      they'd be willing to Impeach him for anything.  While the outcome would be uncertain, an Impeachment does not guarantee a Dem win in 2014.  All of this would be in the shadow of a possible military action against Syria in violation of UN charter, congress, and for now, what the public wants.  Dems would be assured of nothing.

      •  If the Republicans were willing (1+ / 0-)
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        to impeach him for "anything" they would have already done it. Politically they have to think that they have a case that will fly with the public. With Clinton they were banking on outrage over the sex and it just wasn't there.

        •  Well, it's not even the public (0+ / 0-)

          their base hates the UN.  They can't call Obama a globalist puppet while impeaching him for disobeying the blue helmets.

          Well, they might.  But even their base won't go for that.

          Reasonable suspicion? How can being wrong 98.6% of the time ever be reasonable?

          by happymisanthropy on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 07:04:47 PM PDT

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      •  If they impeach him over Syria, they impeach (1+ / 0-)
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        him on an issue where the American people does not agree with him.

        The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

        by lysias on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 06:59:26 PM PDT

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      •  Why would Republicans impeach Obama when (0+ / 0-)

        ... he has taken over the Bush national security agenda with such enthusiasm and expanded it to where he looks more Repubican than any Democrat?

        But then my eyesight ain't that good from this distance.

    •  I'm not sure that's true. (0+ / 0-)

      If the President's AUMF is defeated and he attacks Syria anyway, he would be acting without the authorization of any international body and without the authorization of Congress against a nation which can't be imagined to have attacked us.
         And with the public overwhelmingly opposed to his action.
         Even Reagan's invasion of Granada could be excused by the need to protect American medical students.

        IMHO, that really would be an impeachable offense.
        The impeachment of Clinton was a joke. The impeachment of the President over a completely unauthorized military strike would be perfectly legitimate and would receive widespread public support.
         And if the AUMF passes, Democrats can expect a certain lack of enthusiasm among their base if they vote for this thing.

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