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  •  Then indict him for war crimes (14+ / 0-)

    But that doesn't authorize a military strike or supersede the UN Charter.

    "When dealing with terrorism, civil and human rights are not applicable." Egyptian military spokesman.

    by Paleo on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 06:41:15 PM PDT

    •  If we can indict him for Crimes (3+ / 0-)
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      rexxnyc, ronnied, hooper

      Against Humanity, why should we not be able to deter it from happening in the first place?

    •  War of aggression (3+ / 0-)

      Robert Jackson, chief prosecutor at Nuremberg:

      "To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      This war of aggression based on gas attacks, which I consider a pretext regardless of who carried them out, will be an evil crime against peace, just as was Iraq War.  The logic of Vincent Bugliosi's Prosecution of George Bush for Murder will apply to President Obama as well, if he chooses to continue with this course of action.  You are profoundly misinformed and misguided if you think that Nuremberg provides the justification for that which it roundly condemns.

      Responsibility to Protect is not yet accepted, and even on its own terms would not justify this war.  Take it to the UN and follow its decision, or act criminally - there is no choice.  The UN Charter does not supersede the Nuremberg prohibition against wars of aggression - it provides the structure for ensuring that this prohibition is honored.

      On a separate but related issue, the gas attacks were a terrorist act with a political goal.  That goal was likely to cause US intervention in this war, and the attacks were likely invited by the "red line."  (This is not to suggest US involvement in the attacks - just after the fact misuse of the terrorist act without seeking proper attribution to the true actors) By accepting US government claims without question, we could become complicit in terrorism.

      •  Thank you! (1+ / 0-)
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        VincaMajor

        The diarist, even though he/she mentions aggressive warfare just doesn't seem to get what Nuremburg was about. Sure, there are war crimes and crimes against humanity. But the root of how these things spill over national borders and become crimes about which we say, as we said after the Holocaust, Never again! is through wars of aggression. For example, one could argue, with some justification, that the reason that there is a vicious civil war in Syria is the spillover from the US's unjustified invasion of Iraq in 2003.  

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