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  •  No, (0+ / 0-)

    I'm just refusing to compartmentalize abstract reasoning from the total human situation.

    If you are going to cite humanitarian principles, then it's fair to ask what is so humanitarian about more Syrians dying, this time under American bombs?  

    I thought you might intend to argue that the intention of deterrence was in itself humanitarian, and I was saying it might or might not be, but definitely not if it doesn't work, which it won't.

    •  Assad has already used (0+ / 0-)

      chemical weapons twice.  His first use was much smaller and not all that easy to detect.

      His second use is what we are talking about.

      How do you know deterrence will not work?.....So far, Assad has gotten away with it.  Why would he not try again when he needed to win a battle?

      Standing by and doing nothing only encourages further use.  It is not "just do something" as many caricature the objective, but an attack on the ability to use chemical weapons and to degrade his military.

      All military action results in death of at least a few civilians.  Sometimes it serves the greater good by stopping even worse killing.  Hundreds of dead kids.  We need to stop that.

      •  Perhaps you could give an example (0+ / 0-)

        from history of when bombing ever deterred anybody.

        •  Bombimg prevented (0+ / 0-)

          Saddam Hussein from reconstituting his chemical weapons program.

          •  Huh? (0+ / 0-)

            I'm not sure which round of bombing you mean. Under Bush I, the casus belli was invasion of Kuwait.

            Under Bush II, the casus belli was the lurking threat of a mushroom cloud somewhere down the line. Allegations of chemical weaponry turned out to be overblown. The future intentions of the Irwere speculative.

            And finally, a lot more than bombing was involved.

            Moreover, were I to grant you some one "exception that proves the rule," the overwhelming weight of experience is in the other direction.

            For example, the German bombing of England  in WWII deterred nothing.The U.S. bombing of Viet Nam and Cambodia deterred nothing. Of course, bombing can reduce a place to rubble as in the cases of Dresden or Hiroshima, for example, but that is hardy a case of simple deterrence, is it?

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