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  •  I didn't say it was peaceful (3+ / 0-)
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    Ojibwa, mayim, RiveroftheWest

    But there is no way the basic language coulda be laid down by a tiny invading aristocracy.  The Normans didn't change English into French. Not the basic building blocks.  

    But the Saxons were already there in the 300s.

    A Catholic, Jew, Muslim and Buddhist walk into Al Aqsa Mosque. Buddhist immediately exclaims: "excuse me I appear to be in the wrong joke."

    by Salo on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 08:02:30 PM PDT

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    •  Saxons? (1+ / 0-)
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      Ojibwa

      That is a thing that I'd like to see evidence of. I can accept auxiliaries in the form of "Gauls," who would have been Romanized, but the idea that Saxons -- who were known as a predatory group -- were there when the Romans were, is something I'd like to read about.

      Again, there are Gauls and there are Gauls. . . Germans and Germans. Again, check the people who make the case very, very carefully.

      Oh, and for the Saxon presence to be great enough to flip the language essentially within a couple of decades after the legions were withdrawn, the Roman legions would have noticed and commented. Late empire records are fairly well preserved, and Britania was a sore point with all the emperors. If you've read up on how the next wave of people from near Jutland would behave when they came as an organized group, you can far more readily believe in the efficiency of their destruction.

      Everyone's innocent of some crime.

      by The Geogre on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 03:49:52 AM PDT

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