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  •  Yet sitting and waiting (0+ / 0-)

    gives him more opportunity to shoot cops.

    "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

    by raptavio on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 05:52:55 AM PDT

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    •  Or you could just talk with the guy? n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

      by moviemeister76 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 02:38:45 PM PDT

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      •  Same problem. (0+ / 0-)

        "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

        by raptavio on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 02:44:01 PM PDT

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        •  Only kind of (0+ / 0-)

          If he was willing to let two people go, then he's willing to be reasonable. Plus it shows that he did understand the value of life in some fashion. If their only argument for not sitting and talking with the guy is that they themselves were in danger of being shot then we are pretty much screwed as it is understood that cops are entrusted with extraordinary power because their jobs are so dangerous.

          Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

          by moviemeister76 on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 03:17:25 PM PDT

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          •  If he lets two people go (0+ / 0-)

            and then starts shooting again?

            "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

            by raptavio on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 04:33:49 PM PDT

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            •  As I wrote, (0+ / 0-)

              Being a cop is a dangerous job. We all know that. There are always risks. They could have just waited him out or kept talking to him. Yes, it was dangerous. But the option they went with was ridiculous. Anyone who's gassed, especially someone that old, acts irrationally at first if they don't know it's coming. And sometimes, like in my case, even when they do know it's coming.

              Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

              by moviemeister76 on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 12:07:17 AM PDT

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              •  Yes, being a cop is a dangerous job. (0+ / 0-)

                Which is why I'm inclined to cut them some slack if they're dealing with an armed and shooting perp.

                "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

                by raptavio on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 06:57:59 AM PDT

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