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  •  in context what kerry warned of was (4+ / 0-)

    an eventual attack, not necessarily an imminent one and that other diary title was misleading, imo

    The most unbelievable thing this point, is that Obama hasn't altogether yanked Kerry away from all available microphones for the duration.

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 07:18:00 AM PDT

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    •  Perhaps because this POTUS wants Kerry to be (6+ / 0-)

      bellicose and "Munich Moment"-y?

      Otherwise, yes. I'd think any POTUS who wanted a mature and serious discussion about this would have yanked an out-of-line SecState into the Oval Office for a serious adjustment right away.

      Doesn't seem to have happened.

      Weird, huh?

      As of 9pm 8/30/13: RETIRED Pie Warrior. Substance over Sh*t Flinging (as best as I am able) ~ JV

      by JVolvo on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 08:29:22 AM PDT

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    •  Sybil, if you think Kerry is the first SoS (4+ / 0-)

      to act independently and off-script from the wishes of his President since Dulles, you need to consider why, in the name of God, you think that's possible.

      What on earth would give Kerry the ability to pursue a course, loudly and vociferously and over a period of two weeks, all over the world for God's sake, that Obama doesn't agree with?

      The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 09:52:39 AM PDT

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      •  Off-key, not off-course, (1+ / 0-)
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        (With the exception of his huge gaffe in the senate  hearings when it's inarguable that he went waaaay off the president's message re: boots on the ground and then spent the rest of the day walking it back)

        I'm saying Kerry is off-key. His powers of veracity are just plain squishy. If that isn't important, then we just have to disagree. He hasn't done the president any favors in my view.

        which in this case, may be for the best, but it's going to leave one helluva bad aftertaste

        "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

        by Sybil Liberty on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 10:15:45 AM PDT

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        •  You're ascribing his performance to (2+ / 0-)
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          individual character flaws and mistakes. Whereas I think his performance was primarily scripted. Otherwise I think we would have seen far less of him after he had made one or two speeches.

          The Obama administration is well-known for its iron control over message. He's even managed to get Biden under control.

          I think it's silly to assume that the problem here is that Kerry isn't good at conveying a message. For one thing, being "off-key" or gaffe-ridden is nowhere near enough to cover repeated uses of the Hitler comparison.

          Believe me, if the Administration didn't want that talking point used, it wouldn't have been used more than once.

          None of this means Kerry is a good Sec of State, or that what he's doing isn't bad.

          It's just a very different view of why he's doing what he's doing--and of what Sec of State actually is.

          The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:25:56 PM PDT

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          •  agreed. different views (0+ / 0-)

            very

            We also have very different views when it comes to this administration's "iron clad control" over messaging. Just don't see it.

            "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

            by Sybil Liberty on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 12:57:59 PM PDT

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            •  Wow. Well. OK. (0+ / 0-)

              I guess we'll just agree to disagree, then.

              The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

              by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 02:00:39 PM PDT

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