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  •  I don't see that as "walking back" Kerry's words (8+ / 0-)

    I see that for exactly what it says:

    His (Kerry's) point was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons, otherwise he would have done so long ago. That's why the world faces this moment."
    I seriously do not see that as a "walk back" -- more like a keep it real conversation.
    •  Was there ever a formal international demand for (0+ / 0-)

      this in the past?

      His (Kerry's) point was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons, otherwise he would have done so long ago. That's why the world faces this moment."
      What I am saying is; Suggesting that Assad is guilty of repeated noncompliance suggests that there is a history of requested compliance. Is there?

      Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!

      by bigtimecynic on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 10:02:03 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, there was formal international demand (0+ / 0-)

        for Assad to give up his chemical weapons in the past.

        In fact, as recent as July 2012 (last year) when the USA had absolute confirmation that Assad had Sarin and other nerve agents that could be used to gas his people to death in Syria's Civil War.

    •  Well, we'll find out soon enough if (1+ / 0-)
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      the admin is ready to propose verification or not accepting yes for an answer.

      HEY COGNITIVE INFILTRATORS! I googled "confirmation bias" and Daily Kos raided my house! And and and smashed my hard drives! Ask CNN, it's all truthy!

      by Inland on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 10:08:33 AM PDT

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    •  Deja vu all over again. (1+ / 0-)
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      Bush and Cheney demanded Saddam turn over inventories of all his chemical weapons. He did. Bush and Cheney did not believe the inventories and said Saddam obviously could not be trusted. They invaded Iraq. The rest was farce.

      Even assuming Assad does not turn over all his chemical weapons, there is no likelihood a few days of US bombing would get rid of them all, either.

    •  With a little salt, that would make one tasty (0+ / 0-)

      pretzel.

      The excuses for Obama's behavior have long since passed the point of predictability neccessary to qualify as an absurd production of Kabuki Theater.

      by Johnathan Ivan on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 11:21:09 AM PDT

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