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  •  I hadn't heard that she left him the day of (23+ / 0-)

    the Trayvon Martin shooting.  That really lends a new slant to things (though I've felt he was guilty of manslaughter at the least).

    Her next date better be careful if George isn't in prison.  He sounds like the jealous type who isn't afraid to use a gun to "protect what's his." *

    * not a quote from him, but from others in a similar situation.

    •  I never heard that either. (3+ / 0-)
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      ColoTim, Matt Z, Dirtandiron

      It was reported that they had had a fight that day, and she had gone to stay with her father. But, according to Osterman, his best friend, Osterman and Shellie went to pick Z up from the PD that night. And she put bandaids on his boo boos. She only recently filed for divorce.

    •  They had had a fight the pm prior (Sat) and she (8+ / 0-)

      left to stay at her father's place (same place as today's confrontation).  THAT didn't come up in the trial.

      So, they fought, she left, he's pissed and then goes Neighborhood Commandoing the next evening.

      In a wide-ranging interview conducted by investigative freelance journalist Christi O'Connor, Zimmerman said on the evening Martin died she was staying elsewhere because the couple had got in an argument the night before. She added that the struggles of the last year and a half have further strained their relationship.
      Gosh, wouldn't that have been relevant to the shooting?

      As of 9pm 8/30/13: RETIRED Pie Warrior. Substance over Sh*t Flinging (as best as I am able) ~ JV

      by JVolvo on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 01:43:14 PM PDT

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      •  Not so sure. (3+ / 0-)
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        Throw The Bums Out, tikkun, ColoTim

        Since the jury admittedly used "stand your ground" to excuse Zimmerman, and only one person in the conflict lived to tell their side of the story, I highly doubt his abusive background or his wife leaving him would have changed anything.  All they did was say George felt threatened so had a right to shoot.

        In theory, he could very well have shot somebody during this recent run in with the law and used the exact same defense...he just wanted to speak to his wife and their family came after him.  He felt physically threatened so he shot.  

        •  That winds up being like the boy who cried wolf (0+ / 0-)

          in that if he keeps shooting people and he claims SYG, some judge and jury is going to call him on it.

          •  In theory. (1+ / 0-)
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            ColoTim

            The problem is even in the Trayvon Martin case, the jury felt it was an avoidable situation but the stand your ground law made them feel/believe they had no choice.  Even if you are the aggressor, it doesnt matter.

          •  That's not how it works. (0+ / 0-)

            From my understanding of Florida law, the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not feel threatened.

            That's just too difficult a standard to meet, when "feeling threatened" is all you have to claim in your defense.

            How can you proof beyond a reasonable doubt that what someone says they felt is not true?

            It's absurd.

            "Jersey_Boy" was taken.

            by New Jersey Boy on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 08:09:33 AM PDT

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