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  •  Of course they didn't. This diary is ridiculous. (6+ / 0-)

    Show me some real, serious police abuse. This is just a couple of yuppies angry their sense of privilege and entitlement was violated.

    Meh.

    •  An overall improvement of police attitude towards (3+ / 0-)
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      the public would improve everyones' experience with the police, and would be more true to their actual mission.  

      Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!

      by bigtimecynic on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 05:44:15 AM PDT

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    •  Disagree (9+ / 0-)

      The right of photographers to take pictures in public is an important one -- and it does protect the public at large.  It's not just an entitlement for yuppies.

      Consider the number of instances of police abuse that have been documented only because a private individual was around to take pictures or shoot video of the incidents.

      Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

      by TexasTom on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 06:22:59 AM PDT

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    •  Here we go with the privilege bullshit (8+ / 0-)

      No, they had their rights violated. The cop was wrong.

      Following the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington, the Port Authority prohibited people from taking photographs on the premises of the bridge out of fear that terrorist groups might study any potential photographs in order to plot a terrorist attack on the bridge. Such prohibitions have since been lifted.
      •  What right was violated? (0+ / 0-)
        •  The right to photograph (3+ / 0-)
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          in public spaces.

          From what I understand of the law, you can take pictures from the middle of the bridge.

          I actually called the Port Authority to try and get an answer. I called the Media Relations Department 212 435-7000, and was given the name Anthony Altilio and the number 201-346-4161.

          I left a message and my number, asking specifically if photography is allowed from the middle of the bridge, and hope to hear back from him.

          Then this great mystery may be solved :)

          It's quite routine for police to be totally in the wrong as to where people are allowed to photograph, and it needs to be stood up to.

          The notion that this should be laughed off because it's just some white yuppies with a fancy camera ( made upstream) is pretty offensive.

        •  First Amendment to begin with (3+ / 0-)
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          Taking photographs of things that are plainly visible from public spaces is a constitutional right – and that includes federal buildings, transportation facilities, and police and other government officials carrying out their duties. Unfortunately, there is a widespread, continuing pattern of law enforcement officers ordering people to stop taking photographs from public places, and harassing, detaining and arresting those who fail to comply
          Your rights as a photographer:

              When in public spaces where you are lawfully present you have the right to photograph anything that is in plain view. That includes pictures of federal buildings, transportation facilities, and police. Such photography is a form of public oversight over the government and is important in a free society.

          aclu.org
    •  wow. (7+ / 0-)

      "This is just a couple of yuppies angry their sense of privilege and entitlement was violated."

      Just wow.

      yup·pie
      ˈyəpē/
      noun
      informal derogatory
      noun: yuppie; plural noun: yuppies; noun: yuppy

          1.
          a well-paid young middle-class professional who works in a city job and has a luxurious lifestyle.

      We don't know the race, back round, or much about the diarist other then he/she is a student that visits NYC thrice a year. Your classicism is really messed up man.

       I've been a New Yorker for 20 years and seen this type of thing first hand  at OWS and up until the point of having a gun pointed to my head one time and being slammed against a van another for merely talking back to the NYPD in a polite manner in 2003,2004, 2006, 2008, and 2011.

      I've seen them harass photographers and other artists for trying to create art. The whole idea of banning video an photography from the bridges and other "sensitive" places has always been moronic. Terrorists aren't gonna suddenly have a great insight into how to launch an attack against a bridge by seeing a photo shot from the bridge ect.

      While this is not shocking to me from my own experiences, or a particularly large violation of their civil rights I did not immediately jump to the conclusion that this is a bunch of rich white middle class people with a sense of privilege that are "shocked - shocked I say" that a police officer would be less then polite to them.

      I think you need to check your bias man.  

      “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

      by Tool on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 06:53:26 AM PDT

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