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  •  So now the term "blue dog" (23+ / 0-)

    is slander?

    That's absurd.

    Own your position and be proud of it. Don't whine when you support wars of choice and earn the blue dog label. And if you don't like the label, then rethink your position on taking the country to war when the evidence is shaky, when there are other options, when supporting the arming and training of radical and largely foreign mercenaries overthrowing a government as proxies for other countries, when advocating humanitarianism at the end of a cruise missile.

    Own it.

    This notion that the word "apologist" and now the term "blue dog" (and whatever other accurate descriptions arise that suddenly are objected to) are "slander" or insults are just convenient ploys for people who don't want to own up to their own choices and behavior.


    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 04:13:07 AM PDT

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    •  I love dogs. And my favorite color is blue. (0+ / 0-)

      I'm a blue dog!

      I'm just not a democrat.

      Please pretend that I don't give a shit.

      by Jim Riggs on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 05:17:20 AM PDT

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    •  joanneleon, I agree with (4+ / 0-)
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      Dallasdoc, gulfgal98, MKinTN, dharmafarmer

      every word of your comment. Beautifully worded and rec'ced w/pride. Have you ever done a diary on the subject?

      Through thoughts, words and actions, we live the truth we know. -- L. Spencer

      by orlbucfan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 06:30:26 AM PDT

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    •  Blue Dog means something very specific (0+ / 0-)

      and this ain't that.

      From el wiki de pedia, emphasis mine:

      The Blue Dogs are viewed by some as a continuation of the socially conservative wing of the Democratic party, however, the only stated policy position of the Blue Dogs is fiscal conservatism.
      ...
      Blue Dogs are an important swing vote on spending bills and as a result have gained influence in Congress out of proportion to their numbers. They are frequently sought after to broker compromises between the Democratic and Republican leadership, generally lending a more centrist character to US politics.
      So let's look at that in regards to Syria. The fiscally conservative position is... not to bomb. The Republican leadership claims they do not want to bomb, though we know they actually just want money to feed their MIC buddies before we can bomb.

      The Blue Dog position? Probably to require spending cuts to something more important if we spend any money on this war. There might be some overlap with the neo-con position, which would be to move spending to the defense budget unrelated to this action, instead of cutting it. But overall, the Blue Dog position, while odious on other issues, would not encourage a quick military strike here.

      •  In other words (0+ / 0-)

        I don't want "Blue Dog" used in this fight the way people have been using it, because it's simply not accurate. The support for this strike is not coming from the Blue Dogs.

        And lest you think I'm defending the Blue Dogs, nope. I want to keep that insult available for those who actually are Blue Dogs — those so-called Democrats who are willing to fuck up Social Security and domestic social spending, and impoverish Americans to benefit the 1%.

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