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  •  Rather than do a point by point... (1+ / 0-)
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    David54

    Have a read at what those warmongerers over at Human Rights Watch have to say about the attacks in their freshly-released report on the subject.

    Don't just look at the introduction and see whether they support your conclusion or not and then throw it away - actually read it.  And note that they're not using any of the intelligence info from the US, France, Germany, etc, who actually have radio intercepts and satellite views of the attacks.

    Já þýðir já. Nei þýðir nei. Hvað er svona erfitt við það?

    by Rei on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 08:54:08 AM PDT

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    •  Thanks. Notice this thread died with your link. (1+ / 0-)
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      frostbite

      No one's going to admit they're wrong, just move on and fabricate CT elsewhere.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 09:32:04 AM PDT

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      •  Wrong (0+ / 0-)

        That post made completely wrong implications of what I said, which you just supported. What conspiracy did I theorize? I did exactly the opposite. I pointed out that dismissal of some incompatible versions of events was unwarranted by insufficient evidence, and that some of those versions were indeed plausible though merely asserted to be impossible. Without endorsing any of them as fact, because we don't actually know.

        Some of us can let 45 minutes during the business day go by in a discussion without responding, but still post a disagreement.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 09:47:08 AM PDT

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        •  I should have made it clear that I thought your (0+ / 0-)

          post was reasonable. I do think there are others who are commenting here who will never accept the idea that this isn't a "frame" job because "Obama and his buddies want Syria's oil, " or something like that.

          The rebels are fighting amongst themselves, apparently, and it's possible the al Qaeda group might go after the Kurds or vice versa.

          After they get this "Syria" thing untangled, then they need to get some kind of international resolution to the "Kurd" issue because it continues to be a poblem across 4 or 5 "countries" in the middle east.

          In this case, the brother of Assad was the main suspect, possibly in a "loose cannon" episode.

          At any rate I hope this Russian/UN plan works. They can hold Assad accountable for war crimes later..

          You can't make this stuff up.

          by David54 on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 11:22:33 AM PDT

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    •  What Concusion? (2+ / 0-)
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      I don't make any conclusion. I say only that the few known facts could support either of multiple mutually exclusive conclusions, without picking one.

      You have jumped to the conclusion that I have jumped to a conclusion, though I have not.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 09:44:15 AM PDT

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