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  •  Most domestic abuse victims don't press charges. (13+ / 0-)

    They are probably scared shitless of that killer.

    •  Read the comment I was responding to. (2+ / 0-)
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      johnny wurster, Neuroptimalian

      Zimmerman didn't "come on a person private property." He was living at the house, Shellie wasn't. And in most places, there are rules about landlord notification before entering a rental property. My guess is that Shellie's attorney informed her father of such, hence no complaints were made or charges were filed.

      If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

      by HairyTrueMan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 09:21:58 AM PDT

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      •  And my guess is Shellie is just scared shitless of (11+ / 0-)

        the abusive killer with a gun:)

      •  was george actually renting this property? (3+ / 0-)
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        doroma, Tonedevil, HappyinNM

        or just staying there and why was george in his car then?

        •  I'm not sure if he was technically renting. (0+ / 0-)

          He was living there with his father-in-laws permission.

          If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

          by HairyTrueMan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 11:28:07 AM PDT

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          •  So it was his father-in-law's property? (2+ / 0-)
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            doroma, HappyinNM

            How does he get away with punching the owner of the property in the face? Wasn't this some sort of violation of the Castle Doctrine.
            And he actually punched the man? Didn't the father-in-law fear for his life?! This was where the SYG law should have helped both Shellie and her father, right?

            Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

            by JoanMar on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 12:16:38 PM PDT

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          •  If Zimmerman Is Staying There With His Father-In- (1+ / 0-)
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            doroma

            law's permission (i.e. not actually paying rent), then the father-in-law has every right to enter his property whenever he wants to, and tell George to get the hell out. Zimmerman would be staying there as a charity case, not as a renter.

      •  So by law, he had about as much right to call (2+ / 0-)
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        doroma, HappyinNM

        himself a resident of that community, as Trayvon had in calling himself a resident of his dad's community.

        Ayn sucks. Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer.

        by Floyd Blue on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 11:57:18 AM PDT

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      •  Can U show Legal Docs GZ had sole authority 2be (2+ / 0-)
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        a2nite, doroma

        at that house?

        Shellie was a legal tenant of that house and by law had the right to bring her guest (father) to that home any time she wanted to.

        You keep quoting Omara saying George was the only one who lived there when, in fact, Shellie told ABC last week George had only been in that house for 3 or 4 days since July.

        You act as if Omara is telling the truth here - as if he never lied before - even though this Diary was written because Omara's version of where the gun was is different from what Police say.

        So, if you can please provide legal documents that show George Zimmerman had sole authority to be at that house and Shellie had no authority -then I would gladly check those legal docs out.

        Remember:

        1) Shellie said George had only been home for 3 or 4 days since July - so does that mean George abandoned his right to come and go as he pleased at that residence?

        2) Shellie said she moved out on Aug 13 - does that mean she sent a letter to her landlord (father) stating such and therefore gave up the right to come and go as she pleased?

        In the interview, she [Shellie] said her husband only stayed in their house three or four nights since the trial ended in July and that they even tried counseling but she moved out Aug. 13.
        3) As for the landlord: the landlord new 2 people were legally allowed to live at the house - Shellie and George and he (landlord) showed up WITH one of the tenant which is perfectly legal.

        Meaning, her father (landlord) did have permission by the tenant to be in that house on that day.

        4) As far as I know, a tenant can stay where ever the hell they want for as long as they want and at no time does that mean they gave up their legal right to come and go as they please.

        As far as I know, there is no law that barred Shellie from going in that house any time she wanted to.

        5) There are pics of text messages showing that Shellie and George texted Monday morning about her going to the house to get more of her stuff.

        Again, please provide any legal documents you have that show George Zimmerman had sole authority to be in that house and Shellie had no authority

        Thanks.

        •  Perhaps... (0+ / 0-)

          But George Zimmerman certainly didn't "come on a person private property" since he was living there. He had a right to be there.

          If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

          by HairyTrueMan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 01:01:20 PM PDT

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          •  Did He Also Have A "Right" To Threaten His Wife, (2+ / 0-)
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            doroma, HappyinNM

            smash her ipad, and maybe punch his father-in-law in the nose? Every time Zimmerman shows up somewhere, there are problems and the police have to be called, but (according to Mark O'Mara) it's NEVER poor George's fault.

            •  No Lawyer, Now What? (0+ / 0-)

              I predict the future may change for our well-known thug, law-breaker, and murderer now that O'Mara is no longer his lawyer.

              Do you think O'Mara thinks Zimmerman is "awesome" now?

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