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  •  Ah I see so he's living in a house his FIL owns (12+ / 0-)

    and he's armed at all times and just returned to find his wife and FIL there unexpectedly.
    Amazing he didnt just gun them both down and invoke Fla's 'Defending your Rented Castle' law.
    What restraint.

    •  and showed up there with an ex-fiancee in tow (3+ / 0-)
    •  Correct. (0+ / 0-)

      He is living in a house that his father-in-law owns and is armed at all times. And his attorney (O'Mara) says that Shellie was there "unannounced" with her father.

      And you mock renter's rights. How progressive of you.

      If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

      by HairyTrueMan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 09:45:10 AM PDT

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      •  a land lord can showup at his property (5+ / 0-)

        whenever he wants.
        last i heard
        where is the part where he(the owner)busted into the house/property?
        i havent heard that at all

        did george say he couldnt come in?

        •  Here is the law. (0+ / 0-)
          Landlords must comply with the state law prohibiting entry without consent. To enter their rentals, landlords must obtain their tenants' consent prior to entering their homes. However, Florida law allows landlords to enter for emergency repairs without providing advance notice and obtaining consent. Landlords also have the right to enter without advance notice if their tenants leave their rentals for half of their rental periods. For instance, landlords may enter their month-to-month tenants' homes if their tenants have vacated their homes without providing notice or paying rent for at least 15 days. Landlords also have the right to enter for non-emergency repairs after providing at least 12 hours of advance notice between reasonable hours. In Florida, courts consider entry between 7:30 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. as reasonable.
          BTW, the father-in-law was inside the house when the police arrived.

          If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

          by HairyTrueMan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 11:11:52 AM PDT

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          •  Hey Hairy (6+ / 0-)

            If George is so in the right how come O'mara dropped him like a hot potato???

            Let me help you.  He's tired of lying for George just like Shellie.

            She texted him, it wasn't unannounced.  He showed up to start crap and now the lies are flowing.  It's his MO.  Stop calling others obtuse and take a hard look in the mirror.

            You are defending a very violent liar.  We all need him off the street.

            •  Great comment thomlch (1+ / 0-)
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            •  O'Mara is a criminal defense attorney. (0+ / 0-)

              And to my recollection, Zimmerman isn't currently being charged with any crimes, now is he? He has a different lawyer for civil matters. This domestic disturbance with his soon to be ex-wife required O'Mara to make a few media appearances yesterday. He showed up and defended Zimmerman as any good defense lawyer would do for his client. And of course O'Mara still wants to get his money from the State of Florida for the Trayvon Martin case. So he can't exactly drop GZ like a "hot potato" quite yet.

              But just for you, I'm going to go home tonight and take a long, hard look in the mirror.

              You're welcome.

              If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

              by HairyTrueMan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 12:32:46 PM PDT

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            •  Agree Thomich!! I Just Wonder How Many (2+ / 0-)
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              innocent people Zimmerman is going to be allowed to threaten with a gun before he is actually arrested? My guess is, Zimmerman is going to end up killing (or being killed) in some type of altercation because of his paranoia and anger. I just hope if he kills again, he's not going to skate away like he did with Trayvon Martin.

              •  If he's smart, he'll leave the country. (0+ / 0-)

                He should push for a settlement with ABC News and get the fuck out of Dodge. Unfortunately, I don't think he's very smart.

                If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

                by HairyTrueMan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 12:51:17 PM PDT

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          •  Landlord DID have consent by the tenant (1+ / 0-)
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            1) Can you show any legal document that states Shellie had given up her tenant rights at that house

            2) Can you show any legal document that states George Zimmerman had sole authority as to "who" was allowed in and on that property?

            3) Can you show any legal document showing Shellie's legal residence was no longer that house?

            4) Can you show any legal documents that say if and when a tenant sleeps/stays at a location other than their legal residence, they give up all their tenant rights at their place of legal residence?

            Remember: George only stayed at that house for 3 or 4 days since July

            5) The tenant, Shellie, clearly gave the landlord (father) permission to be in that house.

            Gee Hairy, you seem to ignore shellie was still a tenant and had the legal authority to let her landlord father into her legal residence.

            •  It is my understanding that George and Shellie... (0+ / 0-)

              split up before February of 2012. Now that they are getting divorced, the couple is dividing their belongings. I'm not sure if she ever lived at that house.

              If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

              by HairyTrueMan on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 12:49:04 PM PDT

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              •  Is Shellie Zimmerman's Name On The Lease? (2+ / 0-)
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                It doesn't matter if she lived at the house or not - if her name is on the lease, she is a tenant, and has a right to be on the property, AND a right to allow her landlord father on the property. Furthermore, it also doesn't matter WHEN she and George split up, if her name is on the lease.

              •  You are not correct (1+ / 0-)
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                Shellie did live at that house.  Even Omara admits Shellie lived at that house.

                Shellie's dad bought that house last year after George Zimmerman killed Trayvon so they (Shellie & George) would have a place to live together.

                Unless ... you think ... Shellie's dad bought that house for George --- naw

                Shellie told ABC that she had moved in with her father a few days before George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.

                Shellie also told ABC that after George Zimmerman killed Trayvon, they (Shellie & George) got back together and remained together through August 2013

                Shellie also told ABC that she wasn't sure if she would file for divorce; however, last week she filed for divorce.

                Shellie also told ABC that she and George went through counseling for their marriage but that George only had been at the house they shared 3 or 4 times since July 2013.

                By the way, I'm still waiting for you to show me legal documents showing Shellie had no authority to enter that house because only George Zimmerman had sole authority to allow people in and out of that house.
                 

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