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  •  That Obama and Putin spoke about this at G20 (5+ / 0-)

    does not equal this was the plan all along. I don't see anyone making that claim, but people on DKOS

    what I do see happening is Kerry and the admin saying their saber rattling helped get us here, which could have been accomplished through the UN as well, and not with the US claiming the authority to break international law. Saber rattling via the UN Security Council could also have got us here.

    Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. --Edward Abbey

    by greenbastard on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 09:16:59 AM PDT

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    •  Saber rattling (2+ / 0-)
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      via the UN Security Council that includes Russia and China?

      Their presence at the UN precluded any serious threat of military intervention from a UN resolution.

      The only way to make this happen was US projecting military power...period.

      •  which again can be done through the UN w/ (1+ / 0-)
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        the world backing, which is what is happening now

        and then the US doesn't have to break international law, or propose to, and the President doesn't have to look like foolish either

        Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. --Edward Abbey

        by greenbastard on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 11:02:35 AM PDT

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