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  •  Istanbul yuppies vs. religious hick gov't (2+ / 0-)
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    InAntalya, Larsstephens

    I've read that what's happening in Turkey really isn't a part of the "Arab Spring" movement (Turks are NOT Arabs and have never identified with them; indeed, they ruled them for centuries), never mind a rebellion against a lawless kleptocratic dictator.

    Instead, it's something that might be more familiar to Americans: a liberal, highly Europeanized yuppie urbanite culture in Istanbul defending its corner of civilization against a sort of Reagan Revolution: a democratically elected center-right government built on appeals to "heartland" silent majority resentments that has broken with almost 100 years of Kemalist (secular, modernist, Western-oriented) consensus.

    It really did all start with a plan to bulldoze a park and build a mall styled after an Ottoman Empire barracks.  City folk love green space, and the "blue state" elite really doesn't like nostalgia for the theocratic, autocratic Ottoman Empire.

    War Nerd: Turkey's Good, Healthy Riots

    Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

    by Visceral on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 01:24:01 PM PDT

    •  It didn't start with the Gezi Park protests (2+ / 0-)
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      ichibon, Larsstephens

      but what happened in Gezi Park was a major catalyst. There were small but constant protests for months before Gezi Park.

      And there are a lot of lower-income people active in the protests. I'd say they outnumber the yuppies.

      Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

      by InAntalya on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 01:32:23 PM PDT

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    •  urban-rural divisions were a huge part (2+ / 0-)
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      InAntalya, Larsstephens

      of all of the arab spring protests, plus the green protests in iran earlier on, plus pretty much every other political movement in the history of ever.

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