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  •  I'm frustrated by the focus (2+ / 0-)
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    on whether this is a victory for Obama or not. If this works it's a victory for all of us.

    But really, we should wait until this actually turns out good before we declare victory.

    •  Agreed on all fronts here (1+ / 0-)
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      But I think Putin actually sort of made a mistake, and now is a bit boxed in. We'll see. He's certainly good at finding ways to twist things back to his favor.

      This isn't really just about Obama, except that his admin seems to have managed to find some means of diplomatic leverage including but not limited to threats of strikes. I don't think that's the whole story, and I don't think it isn't a part of it, either. I think this also has undoubtedly involved a whole lot of backroominess with a whole lot of other world leaders.

      A fair chunk of the conversation here today strikes me as having more to do with dailykos and its meta and its "sides" than about the actual events unfolding, but that's not new. And there are folks trying to talk about the rest, beyond the framing of whether Obama sux or rox, which is encouraging.

      •  I think the most likely way this could go bad (1+ / 0-)
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        is for the Russians to move troops into Syria ostensibly to protect the weapons sites, thus cutting off the attack option of the president, lest he kills Russians and gets them involved. Then the Russians would be able to give Assad some real support, freeing up troops that are guarding the chemical weapons.

        •  Agreed. (1+ / 0-)
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          And probably why France is pushing UN work/involvement with outlined consequences of some kind, as opposed to just letting Russia "guarantee" anything here.

          They'll probably get it through in some form, too, I think this is a rare moment of Putin not being quite on the ball. At this point, if he shuns any reasonable UN resolution from here, he'll look like he's backing out of a commitment. Syria committing to all of it actually kind of screws him that much more -- I'm sure the backstory to that one is fantastic, not that we'll ever hear it.

          My digits are all crossed that it works.

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