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  •  It doesn't matter what you want to choose (2+ / 0-)
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    War on Error, erush1345

    there's no viable comparison. Used properly nothing the US allows to be used by police approaches sarin.

    The worst you can accuse any police of is reckless behavior and yes that's bad but it doesn't compare to permanent nerve damage to the point at which your body shuts down and you suffocate.

    •  How do you feel about the US & UK use (3+ / 0-)
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      duhban, Johnny Q, churchylafemme

      It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

      by War on Error on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 01:56:15 PM PDT

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    •  I'd like to know why the USA and Israel (1+ / 0-)
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      War on Error

      get a free ride from the pro-war media for not having signed the CW ban convention? It that's OK, why is it so bad that Syria has also failed to sign that convention?

      The pro-war media is now digging out the sick warmongers who led us into the Iraq War. Even Joe Lieberman who has never seen a Mideast war that he did not love (unless initiated by Israel) is being featured on CNN. It's pretty sad.

      War is costly. Peace is priceless!

      by frostbite on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 04:31:26 PM PDT

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      •  What is this CWBC you speak of? (2+ / 0-)
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        duhban, Gator Keyfitz

        Do you mean the CWC? Yes, the US signed that one. Has done a tremendous job getting rid of its own weapons, as well as those of Russia, Albania...

        I'd like to see every country sign on and have OPCW inspectors checking storage, demil and research sites. I would prefer nobody ever made the damn things.

        Oh, about the media, just turn it off and do something useful.

        •  According to Wikipidia the US has ratified (0+ / 0-)

          and Israel has not ratified the CWC. I was relying on the diary for my comment and no one had questioned the matter.

          MD, I fully agree with you that there should be an international  ban and a complete destruction of all Chemical weaponry. The info I read states the the US and Russia have gone beyond the date given in the Convention for the complete destruction of all CWs.

          I also feel that the UN should also agree on a complete ban and the destruction of all nukes. They are an even greater threat to sanity and peace in our world.

          War is costly. Peace is priceless!

          by frostbite on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 07:37:55 PM PDT

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          •  Correct about Israel (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm not a big supporter of Israel when it comes to CW, BW and nuc (CBRN). As for the US and Russia going past their deadlines, these are huge stockpiles. Politics got involved, in the US we had to invent new processes because the locals didn't want us to use incineration (funny note, there's a trash to steam incinerator less that three miles from the APG demil site, it's ok to burn the locals trash, but not ok to expeditiously destroy the nearby agent). The US has eliminated over 90% of our stockpile. While doing that we paid the Russians to get rid of theirs (and kept their scientists paid so their agent didn't get sold to terrorists), we sent crews over to Albania to destroy theirs. We are at least helping the world meet the spirit of the CwC, not thumbing our noses at it. If I have to choose between us helping other countries get rid of their CW stocks or us focusing only on ours, I would prefer to make sure everyone is moving toward verified destruction.

            If it really upsets you, do something about it. I've been in a room with almost 5000 gallons of chemical agent present. The stuff from that site is all gone now, and I'm proud to say I was a small part of that effort.

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