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  •  Read and study about truth suppression tactics, (32+ / 0-)

    and psyops used by the police state to prevent any resistance movement from taking hold.  That has been the policy of the security state, the FBI for decades.

    Here's some background:

    Assassinations, Intimidation, Psychological Warfare, Misinformation, And Other Illegal Tactics
    The American Police State: Get Ready For The Next Stage
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    •  IMO Chris Hedges called it right (15+ / 0-)

      (but way too early) when he said the electoral process was so flawed it wasn't worth using. (And I paraphrase here). We could not have sat out the election last time and may not be able to do so with any comfort in the future. But we need to acknowledge that we are NOT getting a lot of good leaders through this process that we have accumulated over the years. Pelosi, Obama, Reid have not served us well and it may well be because of the way the system is rigged.

      Hi NSA. I am doing constitutionally protected stuff - like free speech. Too bad you are not!

      by glitterscale on Tue Sep 10, 2013 at 08:29:53 PM PDT

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      •  as Obama noted, we are the oldest (9+ / 0-)

        Constitutional democracy around.

        he said it like that was a good thing.  It's not.

        A long time ago, our constitution was a model for other countries, now it is not.  many knowledgable observers have been saying our constitution needs a major over haul...

        Voting
        War powers
        Filibusters
        Campaign finance reform
        A disproportionate senate
        Gerrymandering

        Essentially we need reforms that limit the rich from buying our government, but both the Rs and the Ds are far too beholden to upset the status quo and so we will continue to suffer under an archaic and dysfunctional government by the rich for the rich until a crisis in the form of mass protest and t least the threat, if not the actuality, of revolution and pitchforks produces real reform while it is still possible (something the NSA mic and security state are working hard on preventing)

        Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. - Gandalf the Grey

        by No Exit on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 05:56:14 AM PDT

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        •  It has been an interesting thing to watch (3+ / 0-)
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          We are not ready yet to make major changes. We haven't really understood the dangers that we face in the totalitarianism we have created. We definitely are not united in the future that we want to create (and in some cases are UNABLE to envision a future for whatever reason.) But if somebody CAN articulate that future the tinder is there and that will create the flashpoint imo.

          Hi NSA. I am doing constitutionally protected stuff - like free speech. Too bad you are not!

          by glitterscale on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 06:38:52 AM PDT

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        •  It's not our Constitution that was the problem (2+ / 0-)
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          If it was, Bush and Obama would not have done so much to shred it.

          The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 10:30:31 AM PDT

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          •  i would argue... (2+ / 0-)
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            their ability to shred it with impunity is a structural problem.

            Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. - Gandalf the Grey

            by No Exit on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 11:07:51 AM PDT

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            •  This topic deserves a diary, because (1+ / 0-)
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              quick one-off comments don't do it justice, but what I'd say is:  anything is breakable.

              Given enough time, enough effort, and enough money, you can break anything.

              It took, arguably, nearly 40 years, and I have no idea how many billions of dollars, to get America into a state where Bush and Obama could engage in the shredding.

              And even so, those who wanted to shred it were forced to steal the Presidency in order to accomplish their aims (they couldn't get where they needed to go via propaganda or pouring money into elections).

              I'd say the Constitution has been a very tough, resilient document that has, or had, a healthy ability to change as we learned more and figured out how we were fucking up--or, as a less liberal and more radical person might put it, as we gathered enough power to push for the changes we needed.

              The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

              by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 07:33:27 AM PDT

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              •  The type of shredding we saw under the (1+ / 0-)
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                Repuglican party is not new.  Not the corruption or obstruction.

                This not our first gilded age of plutocratic rule.

                The post WWII glory years of the American middle class are more of an aberration than anything else.

                Our constitution used to be used as a model by other countries.  Now experience has revealed better structures for constitutional democracies and the world long ago stopped regarding out constitution as a model to be copied.

                I see no end to repuglican gridlock and no appetite for the type of structural reforms needed to make our government work properly.

                The topic really is a big one...

                Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. - Gandalf the Grey

                by No Exit on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 07:52:28 AM PDT

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                •  Hey, *I've* got appetite for structural reforms! (1+ / 0-)
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                  We can start with structural reforms on how resistance movements and liberal protest movements are run in this country, which are about 25-30 years overdue, IMO.

                  As far as our history, I see it more as a struggle back and forth rather than unmitigated hell punctuated by one 30-yr period of "glory days." The pendulum swings back and forth, but not by itself:  always being pushed by groups of people.

                  The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

                  by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 08:04:49 AM PDT

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                •  By the way, major kudos for your sig. (1+ / 0-)
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                  My favorite is from later in the book:

                  The rule of no realm is mine, neither of Gondor nor any other, great or small. But all worthy things that are in peril as the world now stands, those are my care. And I shall not have wholly failed of my task, though Gondor should perish, if anything passes through this night that can still grow fair or bear fruit and flower again in days to come.

                  The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

                  by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 08:09:07 AM PDT

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      •  Well, I voted 3rd party which I guess is "sitting (1+ / 0-)
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        out" by some people's standards.

        The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 10:29:43 AM PDT

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        •  I have to confess that I am not too (1+ / 0-)
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          sure of Chris Hedge's ideas regarding the electoral process. I don't know if 3rd party IS sitting it out or whether there has to be a substantial number sitting on their hands saying it doesn't matter so that the election BECOMES illegitimate because nobody is buying into the bs any more.

          Hi NSA. I am doing constitutionally protected stuff - like free speech. Too bad you are not!

          by glitterscale on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 02:08:11 PM PDT

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          •  I believe there could be a way to (0+ / 0-)

            gain power through elections (it would be tricky, but I think it's possible). But if we did, the people we elect would meet the same bribers and blackmailers when they got to DC that the last bunch of pols met when they got to DC.

            The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 07:35:32 AM PDT

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    •  Hedges is right, but there's something he's (0+ / 0-)

      leaving out:  what happens when DHS comes and trashes your community garden, co-op, whatever?

      Not saying I don't agree with his ideas. It's just--it's not like corporate forces and international financial forces will just let us walk away.

      The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 10:33:56 AM PDT

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    •  To call yourself a socialist is to remove (0+ / 0-)

      yourself from parameters of public discourse--to call yourself a progressive is too.

      The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 10:36:13 AM PDT

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    •  OK, he kind of gets to my points in (0+ / 0-)

      relationship to Occupy--

      The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 10:37:32 AM PDT

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    •  We'll never be able to nationalize energy. (0+ / 0-)

      Not through the government.

      The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 10:38:07 AM PDT

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