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  •  It's not our Constitution that was the problem (2+ / 0-)
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    If it was, Bush and Obama would not have done so much to shred it.

    The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 10:30:31 AM PDT

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    •  i would argue... (2+ / 0-)
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      their ability to shred it with impunity is a structural problem.

      Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. - Gandalf the Grey

      by No Exit on Wed Sep 11, 2013 at 11:07:51 AM PDT

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      •  This topic deserves a diary, because (1+ / 0-)
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        quick one-off comments don't do it justice, but what I'd say is:  anything is breakable.

        Given enough time, enough effort, and enough money, you can break anything.

        It took, arguably, nearly 40 years, and I have no idea how many billions of dollars, to get America into a state where Bush and Obama could engage in the shredding.

        And even so, those who wanted to shred it were forced to steal the Presidency in order to accomplish their aims (they couldn't get where they needed to go via propaganda or pouring money into elections).

        I'd say the Constitution has been a very tough, resilient document that has, or had, a healthy ability to change as we learned more and figured out how we were fucking up--or, as a less liberal and more radical person might put it, as we gathered enough power to push for the changes we needed.

        The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 07:33:27 AM PDT

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        •  The type of shredding we saw under the (1+ / 0-)
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          Repuglican party is not new.  Not the corruption or obstruction.

          This not our first gilded age of plutocratic rule.

          The post WWII glory years of the American middle class are more of an aberration than anything else.

          Our constitution used to be used as a model by other countries.  Now experience has revealed better structures for constitutional democracies and the world long ago stopped regarding out constitution as a model to be copied.

          I see no end to repuglican gridlock and no appetite for the type of structural reforms needed to make our government work properly.

          The topic really is a big one...

          Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. - Gandalf the Grey

          by No Exit on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 07:52:28 AM PDT

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          •  Hey, *I've* got appetite for structural reforms! (1+ / 0-)
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            We can start with structural reforms on how resistance movements and liberal protest movements are run in this country, which are about 25-30 years overdue, IMO.

            As far as our history, I see it more as a struggle back and forth rather than unmitigated hell punctuated by one 30-yr period of "glory days." The pendulum swings back and forth, but not by itself:  always being pushed by groups of people.

            The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 08:04:49 AM PDT

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          •  By the way, major kudos for your sig. (1+ / 0-)
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            My favorite is from later in the book:

            The rule of no realm is mine, neither of Gondor nor any other, great or small. But all worthy things that are in peril as the world now stands, those are my care. And I shall not have wholly failed of my task, though Gondor should perish, if anything passes through this night that can still grow fair or bear fruit and flower again in days to come.

            The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 08:09:07 AM PDT

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