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  •  Who says you can afford to toss (6+ / 0-)

    all your stuff and move to a new platform and spend the time and money to re-do all the work you did in the first place?

    Windows may be compromised, but who says you can't use an alternative platform?


    Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

    by Jim P on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 10:34:00 AM PDT

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    •  Amen. (2+ / 0-)
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      And who want's to spend 24/7 trying to keep thier data private?

      Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

      by DRo on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 10:42:27 AM PDT

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    •  So you're still running CP/M? (0+ / 0-)

      I doubt your commercial programs from 1995 would run on Win 8.  People redo code and work all the time.

      "Don't be defeatist, dear. It's very middle class." - Violet Crawley

      by nightsweat on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 10:58:28 AM PDT

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      •  At a cost. And you're a techie apparently. (3+ / 0-)
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        I, like the vast majority of computer users, what 98%?, am not. I buy software, which costs me money, and I'd have to pay someone to transfer my work done in one platform to another. Then buy the new software; then have a learning curve (= money and time lost) on the new platform.

        A techie with money to burn? No sweat. The rest of us? Big fucking deal.


        Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

        by Jim P on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 11:58:35 AM PDT

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        •  It depends very much on what you use your (2+ / 0-)
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          computer for. If you're a writer and use the word processor it would be pretty easy to get an open source/free software system up and running for cheap. And you wouldn't need new software, and most of the encryption and privacy guards are built in. It will vary greatly from person to person though.

          •  You could always use (1+ / 0-)
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            a WP that's not connected to the web to keep it secret.  Print out your manuscript and mail it to whomever for review.  But we live in the fast lane.  Do you really want to do that?

            Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

            by DRo on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 01:06:29 PM PDT

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          •  Most of humanity ain't doing all that. (2+ / 0-)
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            I guess I have an aversion to 'the people in charge are doing wrong by you, so you should accommodate your life to their wrong-doing' kind of thinking.

            I mean, you still gotta buy the computer and learn the new software and learn the new system and find a tech to explain to you what you have to do (even if you can trust they know really). That's a cost in time and money, and we still didn't do anything wrong.

            I'd rather we just have clear laws to end the Stalking by both business and government.


            Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

            by Jim P on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 01:14:10 PM PDT

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            •  They certainly aren't doing it (1+ / 0-)
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              But a culture that supports this kind of thing and makes it relatively easy is the best defense against this sort of spying in the long term. It also works as group inoculation to some extent. The more people communicating securely there are the less impetus the spy agencies have for collecting all this data.

              •  The rationale is valid, but still, (1+ / 0-)
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                in my B'klyn yut I had a shady acquaintance who instructed "any lock can be defeated. And if you can't, you go through a window. And if you can't, you saw through the door. And if you can't, you punch a hole in the wall."

                He went on for awhile. If enough people went to alternate security, then they'd break that eventually, too. In the meantime, anyone going to higher security sends up a "look at suspicious me" flag.

                Not to say, 'don't try' or 'there's no advantage' but let's be realistic about what's really needed; that would be laws.


                Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

                by Jim P on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 03:25:07 PM PDT

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                •  The more locks you have (1+ / 0-)
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                  the more you may attract thieves.  I'm amazed at the home security scams.  You want thieves to know have valuables?  Enlst one and also have an inxurance policy that lists each asset.  You just set your self up.

                  Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

                  by DRo on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 06:14:51 PM PDT

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                  •  True story. A neighbor in my apartment building (1+ / 0-)
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                    did computer repair on the side from his home. Had a ton of stuff in his place, and six locks on the door. All the best: that 6-sided key lock (Fichet?), the anti-breakdown bar, etc.

                    So someone came in with a chainsaw and sawed out the middle of the door, and took everything.

                    Whoever heard the saw probably figured it was just another building maintenance deal.

                    Always wondered if it was a customer behind it or someone saying 'why 6 locks?, must have something good in there.'


                    Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

                    by Jim P on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 06:42:04 PM PDT

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                    •  When I was very young (1+ / 0-)
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                      it so happened I had a job at an insurance company as a file clerk.  That was back when files were on paper. I was approached then by several 'people' to 'just give me the address where there is a large jewel policy".  I learned then that insurance policies were actyally dangerous.  

                      Be the change you want to see in the world. -Gandhi

                      by DRo on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 07:10:32 PM PDT

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    •  Well, you might not be able to. (0+ / 0-)

      and that sucks.

      But those that can, should.

      The party of Kennedy is also the party of Eastland. The party of Javits is also the party of Goldwater. Where is our party? Where is the political party that will make it unnecessary to march on Washington?

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 02:11:19 PM PDT

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