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  •  The only way forward for Boehner that does not (5+ / 0-)

    result in annihilation for the Republican Party is to work with Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats to forge a majority of congressman willing to vote for the future of their country instead of their party.

    If a majority of Congressmen came together and actually began passing laws that benefited the country, this movement would slowly gather momentum and begin drawing more and more congressmen towards the center.

    Boehner could keep his position as Speaker of the House till the end of his term, as Democrats under Pelosi would guarantee Boehner his Speakership till the end of his term.

    The moderate Republicans that go forward with this plan could be the backbone and rebirth of the Republican Party.

    Certainly, if they do not begin moving forward, they are going to die completely as a political party.

    •  Absolutely (0+ / 0-)

      That is precisely the only way forward and he would remain as Speaker because, forced to choose between him and some Tea Party nut, Democrats would prevent the Tea Party nut from taking over as Speaker.

      I also think you hit it right on as to how the Republican Party can make a comeback. I truly hope they do what you state because I fear what will happen if they don't. Seeing them go extinct wouldn't be disappointing but what rises from their ashes?

      •  If the Republicans don't moderate their positions (3+ / 0-)

        and change their approach, I hope they do go extinct.

        They are doing as much damage to the country as they can manage in an attempt to convince people that the country would do better with them in charge.  Their policies kill people and help only the wealthy and big busines.

        I am certainly willing to take the chance regarding who would replace them.  Unfortunately, I think they still have enough power to make things much worse in this country, before they begin to fade away.

        •  You have a point (1+ / 0-)
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          I suppose what is there to fear? What could fill the void? Something worse than the Tea Party-controlled Republican Party? Unlikely.

          It sounds like we both have the same fear. How much damage can they do on their way out? They have done quite enough damage already and they are still in position to do a lot more.

          •  Yes, I find that there is not much interest (2+ / 0-)
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            from Daily Kos commenters in issues such as the debt ceiling.  I'm not sure why that is.  

            Perhaps people are more easily engaged by issues where there is a persecuted underdog fighting the powers that be, but defaulting on our debt could lead to a financial debacle that would cripple the country for decades.  

            IMO, there is a strong possibility that things will become considerably worse in this country before they get better.  I think it will be at least 7 years (2020) before the Republicans really begin to lose their ability to paralyze our government.  I hope the price we pay in the meantime is not too unbearable.

            •  Haven't gotten that impression yet (2+ / 0-)
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              But my opportunities to participate here have been fleeting. I do fear the debt ceiling more than anything. If they do the wrong thing, unless Obama pulls out one of the options like the trillion dollar coin, the world economy is going to blow up. If he does pull out something like the trillion dollar coin, our political system could blow up.

              I'm thinking the same thing. I would actually put a slightly longer timeframe because I think we need to get redistricting done before we can put an end to Republican sabotage. Actually, as much as I would like to see Boehner out and Pelosi back in at the House, I think it's more critical for our nation's future that we focus on state governments. If Republicans retain control of the states, what's to keep them from more extreme gerrymandering and voter intimidation in an attempt to keep some sliver of control for the following decade? Remember, who controls the states controls the administration of elections and we know Republicans are already taking advantage of that in states they control.

              As for getting worse, the Senate map is not looking promising in 2014, though 2016 looks quite promising. This makes me feel even more fortunate that we still have President Obama. He could spend his last 2 years being the last line of defense from the crazies. If the Republicans were to gain control of the Senate and do away with the filibuster, imagine how many bills he'd have to veto over the course of 2 years.

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