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  •  I feel so much better (0+ / 0-)

    The point is that Obama is only somewhat worse as regards the national debt than Bush?
    I feel so much better.

    Of course, the debt (not that cute deficit number that snuck in there), the new debt is already significantly increased over Bush's totals in 8 years during Obama's mere 5 years. So surely we can expect great things to come. Great things.

    I feel so much better

    •  206,000 UID (2+ / 0-)
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      From the post-2012 election troll class?

      •  Unique identifier? (0+ / 0-)

        No idea. But i guess it's good that there are 206,000 of them.

        And it's always amusing to encounter yet another perfectly knee-jerk reaction from the peanut gallery. Allow me to respectfully suggest that you haven't got the faintest notion of who or what constitutes a troll.

        I voted for Obama because, among other reasons, I thought he would be a better steward of the economy. Instead, the debt has grown at a stronger rate during his term in office so far than it did under Bush. I daresay both he and you have a load of excuses for that. Good excuses, no doubt. So, as I said, I feel so much better.

        •  He was... (0+ / 0-)

          Then the Republicans took over the House. And frankly, the debt has almost nothing to do with the state of the economy. Reagan tripled the debt. Bush doubled it. Most presidents have doubled the national debt, at the very least, since FDR. It hasn't collapsed the economy yet, and it never will - unless Boner sticks his giant orange dick in the economy yet again.

          •  2X and 3X (1+ / 0-)
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            All modern presidents have added to the debt. When Bush left office, it was something over 60% of GDP and now it's about 100%. That's not an insignificant difference, and if you think it hasn't had some effect on the dismal economy, you should get out more and look around.

            •  And so what are the policies that Obama has (0+ / 0-)

              championed and put in place that has you claiming Obama's responsibility for a huge increase in debt, even beyond what the wonderful genius George W racked up?  Because an 8 year old can list all the dumbshit things Bush did to drive the debt through the ceiling and the economy over the cliff.  So im curious, what in your mind are the Obama policies that makes you conclude that Bush's two unpaid wars, unpaid Medicare drug program, TARP and the insane tax cuts pale in comparison to what Obama has done to the debt?  Please proceed.

        •  The greatest financial collapse since the (0+ / 0-)

          Great Depression had everything to do with this. Who cares if you insist on being intentionally obtuse?

          "The only thing we have to fear - is fear itself." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

          by orrg1 on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 08:20:41 PM PDT

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        •  UIDs 203,000 -- 206,000 (0+ / 0-)

          came just after the 2008 election, and featured large numbers of trolls.

          Your argument reminds me of a classic RW debate trick.  e.g., as played by O'Reilly about 3 years into W's term:  less poverty now than at the same point in Clinton's term.  Ergo, W better on poverty.

          An intentional misrepresentation, imo, because it misdirects one away from the actual measure of success.  Povery rates went down under Clinton (from what he inherited from Bush Pere), and up under W (from what he inherited from W).

          To pretend that each administration starts with a clean slate and can be measured solely by the statistics at a given point in their admin, rather than by the state of the world when they started, and whether things improved, is disingenuous.

          If you've been reading Dailykos for several years, then you've been exposed to enough facts and helpful analysis to know this is a falacious argument you make.

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