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  •  I don't understand (0+ / 0-)

    how Putin's not insisting the rebels give up their chemical weapons is connected to Assad's pretending not to have them himself.

    I am sure the rebels don't concern themselves with whatever propaganda their enemies might tell diplomatic circles or the larger world when they are planning their military operations.

    While it may be hard to steal something that doesn't exist in reality, it is not quite as hard to steal something kept in a secure bunker guarded by soldiers you have bribed to look the other way while you take what some politician claims is not there.

    "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

    by Orinoco on Thu Sep 12, 2013 at 07:47:01 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think Assad is pretending not to have (0+ / 0-)

      chemical weapons himself, just pretending that he did not use them. I do believe that he admits he has them.

      And the evidence is quite strong that the Syrian military used them. Since Assad is Commander in Chief of the Syrian military, he is responsible.

      You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

      by sewaneepat on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 05:51:22 AM PDT

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      •  Up until a week ago (1+ / 0-)
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        the Assad government was pretending it had no chemical weapons.

        "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

        by newfie on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 08:27:01 AM PDT

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        •  Good point. (1+ / 0-)
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          I was just thinking in terms of this deal in which they have, of course, admitted having them.

          You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

          by sewaneepat on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 08:33:18 AM PDT

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          •  I always favor the (1+ / 0-)
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            simpler explanations.  It is a simpler explanation that Assad's forces used the weapons.  He may or may not have approved the use.  That doesn't change what happened.  It is far more difficult to actually steal chemical weapons without anyone knowing and then use them. It is a far more difficult argument to say that one body stole chemical weapons and then used them on their own people-a seemingly favorite CT in the ME.  It isn't that it is impossible but it is highly improbable - particularly because they are not great weapons - they do kill but they tend to be very indiscriminate so the closer you use them to your position the higher the chance you are affected - unless you control the wind.  Also, because you are then burdened by dealing with victims - taking up valuable resources, and dealing with the effects on morale -some will be bent on vengeance others will be too distraught. And a host of other things.  

            And on the flip side, Assad could not maintain his denial of ownership and claim the rebels stole the chem weapons.  Nor could he declare that chem weapons were used without his authority - he couldn't do this even if he admitted having them - his position is way to tenuous.

            "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

            by newfie on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 09:00:30 AM PDT

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