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  •  Tea party =/= libertarian (1+ / 0-)
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    the political realities of wining elections in the Republican Party has meant that Tea Party candidates have had to modify their positions to woo the votes of social conservatives.
    This seems to imply that the candidates themselves are sort of secretly libertarian on, say, abortion and gay rights but are covering it up to win elections. I'm not sure that is the case. I think they are just not strict libertarians; they might be libertarian on some issues but they're Christian right on others. Michelle Bachmann seems like a good example. She isn't an old-fashioned country club pro-business type Republican, she is more of a firebreathing populist, but along with that she has far right beliefs on social issues.
    •  I've done some research on this. (3+ / 0-)

      You can find statements that they made before they started running for office that hew the line on Ayn Rand version of libertarianisms and then seen them acting like politicians modifying their positions to get votes.

      Michelle Bachman never was a libertarian. She was always a social conservative.

    •  Somebody wasn't paying attention. The die hard (0+ / 0-)

      social conservative goppers latched onto the "tea party" rebranding in 2009. Bob McDonnell of VA was really the first rigid fundamentalist neo-confederate who disguised himself as "just" a fiscal conservative.
      They quickly got off the mat and got a second wind after having been knocked nearly "out" by the Obama victory, and realized the strategy of "no to Obama" on everything launched by the gop establishment could work.
      They were reanimated by the abortion issue during the health care debate and desperate when it came to the SCOTUS nominations.

      As soon as they eviscerated the Dems in the states in 2010, these "fiscal conservatives" enacted dozens of restrictive abortion bills, attacked public education, etc.

      They're going to pay lip service to the "libertarian" idea when it suits their interests, but the backbone is still the good old Christian right.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 12:26:14 PM PDT

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      •  Following the interactions (0+ / 0-)

        between the two groups is indeed interesting. The Tea Party is itself a coalition. We have yet to see just how long it can sustain itself.

        •  Ah, there's the contradiction (0+ / 0-)
          The Tea Party is itself a coalition. We have yet to see just how long it can sustain itself.
          But it doesn't sustain itself.  It is sustained by the moneyed interests on the right.

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