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  •  No felony convictions on record (16+ / 0-)

    No active restraining orders.
    Not adjudicated as mentally ill.

    Perfectly legal to purchase a gun in many states.

    He broke the DC law, of course.
    Carrying a loaded weapon in DC is a violation.
    So is murder.

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    by GrumpyOldGeek on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 03:25:23 PM PDT

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    •  Murder is still a violation? Who knew? (2+ / 0-)

      Thought congress might have slipped a repeal in there on one of the repeal Obamacare votes. That the suspect had PTSD is noteworthy because it was likely the result of some form of gun violence.  But we just don't connect the dots.  Crass and cynical, I know, but there's no point in paying any attention to the media coverage of these things because the Washington wonderkids lack the courage to do anything about it.  

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      by judyms9 on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 04:08:50 PM PDT

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      •  It would appear that his PTSD (7+ / 0-)

        was related to his role as a rescuer on 9/11. At least that's the implication and it certainly is plausible. New York and vicinity is full of people legitimately diagnosed with PTSD simply as a result of having experienced 9/11 in one way or another. I can't imagine that someone who worked on scene wouldn't have been traumatized.

        Assuming that Alexis really did have some involvement in rescue efforts on 9/11, it is tragic he didn't get the sort of help he clearly needed.

        •  I'm finding the claim he was a 9-11 rescuer (9+ / 0-)

          to be hard to believe.  There's no claim that he was with NYPD, Port Authority PD, FDNY or any other "rescue" organization.

          Having lived in NYC at the time, having lost 20 firefighters from my neighborhood and having spent 6 months at the firehouses, supporting the fire fighters and the families of their fallen brothers and sisters, there is something about the claim that Alexis had 9-11-related PTSD that just strikes me as bullsh*t.

          I know a lot of men who lived through that, who worked for months on "The Pile" and who served in Afghanistan and Iraq.  I want this claim about Alexis substantiated before he dishonors the memory of the rescuers who died on that day and the reputations of the rescuers who carried on in the days, months and years after that horrible day for New York, DC, America and the World.

          •  PTSD and his work as a 1st responder (1+ / 0-)
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            are only hearsay, from his father, at this point. Neither may be true, or one or both may be true. We don't have any confirmation of his experiences or diagnoses yet.

            I find it to be a dishonor as well if untrue. There are enough people with real difficulties due to September 11th and its aftermath, and our help and hearts should remain with those who suffer still.

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            by lexalou on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 07:46:54 PM PDT

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            •  We are hearing that he has been in treatment (1+ / 0-)
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              regarding mental health issues. Again, it's hearsay from an incident that happened in 2005 and/or 2010 per the police records that were released today.

              The 2005 incident, shooting out tires, was when the police talked on the phone with his father. This seems to be the only source that mentions PTSD, Sept 11, anger problems, and mental health counseling/treatment.

              All because he felt disrespected and that people were "talking about him".

              Apparently, his anger issues continued to get worse.

              By 2010, he was behaving bad enough to be discharged from the Naval Reserves in 2011. He had discharged a weapon inside his apartment building, then denied the whole incident.

              The Navy's records will be interesting, methinks.

              His friends, the very same ones who insist he was always a pleasant and kind person, describe his behavior as reclusive and intensely focused on violent video games.

              Easily slighted. Clings to grudges, Always blames outside circumstances. Social withdrawal and isolation. All symptoms seen in several mental disorders, one in particular, paranoid personality disorder.

              People with this particular disorder may or may not have a tendency to bear grudges, suspiciousness, tendency to interpret others' actions as hostile, persistent tendency to self-reference, or a tenacious sense of personal right
              He bought a gun in Virginia about a week ago. He wore a damn costume. He planned this.

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              by GrumpyOldGeek on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 10:06:02 PM PDT

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          •  Thanks for your first comment, Schnitzie. (0+ / 0-)
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            by belinda ridgewood on Mon Sep 16, 2013 at 10:48:14 PM PDT

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    •  Ergo, this is the price of liberty (1+ / 0-)
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      Since it is unconstitutional to prevent citizens from owning firearms without good cause, if those same law-abiding gun-owning citizens subsequently commit crimes with guns, well, that's the price of freedom. QED.

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