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  •  Is it possible (3+ / 0-)
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    To reboot Occupy and do the door to door and canvassing?

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Tue Sep 17, 2013 at 10:51:48 AM PDT

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    •  Personally, I don't see the need to label (8+ / 0-)

      anything Occupy. I think working on a movement that includes canvassing and going door to door is completely doable. I think that we missed a chance to strike while the iron was hot in 2011, and that's a bit disappointing to realize, but I 100% think that we could start doing it now. I see no reason we couldn't.

      •  But then again, the label provides focus (0+ / 0-)

        And a ready made narrative.

        •  The narrative is a part of the problem (2+ / 0-)
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          at this point. It's been turned into a leftist movement when it was never anything of the sort until the press got a hold of it.

          •  What are they doing now to Occupy their message? (0+ / 0-)

            I'm actually suggesting a way or two for them to self-define it in a way the public at large, which has forgotten about them, could understand. But it requires direct action to shape the political culture in at least the Democratic party which they seem unwilling to do.

            And thus they are going the way of the hippie.

            •  The hippies are winning. (4+ / 0-)

              Sure, they may have lost their generation, but why do you think that the millenials are a progressive generation? It's because the hippies, yippies, etc. fought the culture war. They went from the bottom up and influenced the coming generation. That's what we need to do. This isn't a facile political strategy, it's an investment in the future.

              •  Well maybe. But it's taken a wasted 40 years (1+ / 0-)
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                I just missed the tail end of that movement, and now that many of them are facing cuts SS and Medicare benefits they are beginning to enjoy or are looking forward to. So yes, some are waking up. The main difference is they didn't have a sympathetic ear back then from either the Democrats or the Republicans. This time the Democrats are much more on the same page as OWS. Even many moderates can be swayed. But the progressive movement is still a minor movement in America. It does not by any means run through the entire generation.

                Yes, I am hoping for a lot of late blooming among older members of society. But if the members of OWS don't befriend us and learn from those failures, join with us and understand they may have options that were unavailable back then, this new movement is just as likely to fail as the previous one did. And for many of the same reasons.

                •  It hasn't been a wasted 40 years (5+ / 0-)

                  It's been a 40 year investment that is about to pay huge dividends socially and politically. We have an opportunity to build on that and focusing on elections solely or primarily is a waste of that opportunity.

                  The anti-war movement tried the electoral route and lost. Shouldn't we learn from that failure of the 60s?

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