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  •  But was that really a problem or just (1+ / 0-)

    outside the scope of what was originally intended?

    If people want to create a grassroots movement that is explicitly focused around electing candidates, I'm all for it, but that's not what Occupy was.

    Apparently nothing will ever teach these people that the other 99 percent of the population exist. —George Orwell

    by ukit on Tue Sep 17, 2013 at 10:57:27 PM PDT

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    •  that's a fair question (1+ / 0-)
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      ChuckInReno

      and my answer to it is that if you want to change how things are (regardless of the nature of that change) you at some point have to play politics.

      People either forget or don't remember that MLK lobbied hard with JFK and with LBJ on civil rights.

      In my opinion what made the civil rights movement work while OWS floundered was that the civil rights movement had clear and well defined goals from the beginning. Where as OWS either got confused or hijacked to become about the police which frankly turned a lot of people off.

      But that's just my opinion

      •  That's why I think we should remind people (2+ / 0-)
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        of what Occupy actually was: a single, spontaneous protest that spread virally into a series of protests. The Civil Rights movement on the other hand was a decades-long (some would say centuries long) struggle waged by generations of people. So of course Occupy suffers by comparison, just like trying to compare a sketch someone does in one afternoon with Michelangelo painting the Sistine Chapel..but that's not a fair comparison.

        On the other hand, if we zoom out a bit, then maybe we can actually say that Occupy is part of something bigger. America loves to think that we're the center of the world and that everything begins and dies with us but how unique are we really?

        After all, within the past couple years there have been protests not just under the OWS banner, but in Greece, Spain, the U.K., Tunisia, Egypt, Romania, Brazil, Israel and many more I'm probably forgetting. All spontaneous and leaderless in nature, all driven by social media, all in response to economic crisis and austerity. And who's to say this is the end of it?

        Bottom line, it's very difficult to render a verdict on a moment in history that is still unfolding.

        Apparently nothing will ever teach these people that the other 99 percent of the population exist. —George Orwell

        by ukit on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 12:59:57 AM PDT

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