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  •  Background checks (1+ / 0-)
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    as far as sanity goes, are probably useless. There are plenty of unbalanced weirded out people who will never go postal.

    I'm sure there's a whole basket full of crazies at the Navy Yard and they will have uneventful futures as far as what we are discussing here.

    It's a crap shoot.

    Metal detectors would have been useful.

    •  mental health care (4+ / 0-)

      would have been useful, too. Or at least, more and better care than most people can get.

      (Is it time for the pitchforks and torches yet?)

      by PJEvans on Tue Sep 17, 2013 at 08:38:29 PM PDT

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    •  This shooter passed background checks (3+ / 0-)
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      He was never adjudged to be mentally unstable, and had legally purchased his weapon.

      The government has for decades been keeping the number of employees down by contracting out functions that could and had been done by employees.  It allows them to say they are shrinking the government while spending the same or more for work being done.  

      A down side to this is the constant turnover of people is constant turnover.  Had they used in house resources to do the work being done by the Honeywell subcontractor they would have had to do many fewer background checks.  Instead of having to check dozens or even hundreds of different people hired by multiple different companies they would only have to be checked upon hiring.  Longer term employees would be less likely to be able to dehumanize they people they worked and blow them away.  

      You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake.- Jeannette Rankin

      by CA148 NEWS on Tue Sep 17, 2013 at 09:18:20 PM PDT

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      •  Chuck Todd just reported (2+ / 0-)
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        that the "background" check by the DOD did not include anything to do with his criminal record.

        That's pretty lame considering how much NSA is all up in everybody's grill. WTF is the NSA good for?

        Sounds to me like the guy was paranoid schizophrenic. He was hearing voices and said people were out to get him.

        •  Sounds that way to me too (1+ / 0-)
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          Which makes it a very sad case at the nexus of access to health care. Perhaps he couldn't seek mental health services because he was afraid to lose his security clearance.

          "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

          by LilithGardener on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 08:20:53 PM PDT

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    •  Agree on metal detectors (2+ / 0-)
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      LilithGardener, WheninRome

      Very surprised they are not in use at a large federal facility.

      ....the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. FDR 1933

      by Tailspinterry on Tue Sep 17, 2013 at 09:48:40 PM PDT

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