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  •  Kids have time to recover, things will get better. (5+ / 0-)
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    revsue, Dave925, kurt, cville townie, denise b

    The biggest issue they have is college debt and that is something that we absolutely have to do something about.  Colleges are screwing our children, they are overcharging them and delivering lousy value(we are paying top dollar for a TA to deliver them a substandard education).  

    •  things will not get better (17+ / 0-)

      the prosperity, the opportunities of the 50s through to the 70s are not coming back

      for even if those in college now were not burdened by debts and did get a decent education, there still wouldn't be the job openings for them upon graduation

      it's that the entire American economy has changed since the age of the boomers

      and blaming the boomers for what are changes resulting from the global economic restructing that has taken place is just a sign of immature petulance

      We're shocked by a naked nipple, but not by naked aggression.

      by Lepanto on Tue Sep 17, 2013 at 07:31:49 PM PDT

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      •  I'm going to rec this despite the last line (4+ / 0-)
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        offgrid, Zorge, kyril, MGross

        The changes are structural.  Technology has replaced many more good-paying jobs than it has created.

        Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

        by PsychoSavannah on Tue Sep 17, 2013 at 08:25:44 PM PDT

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      •  the boomers are getting criticized (3+ / 0-)
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        for refusing to acknowledge those changes, not for the changes themselves, except to the degree that they advocate for the continuation of the status quo because it defends what privilege and wealth they acquired when times were better.

        the boomers' elders (both parents and those a half generation older, who came of age in the 50s) were if anything even more involved in pulling up the ladder behind them than the boomers, truth be told.

      •  blame boomers- but only blame say 3% of them (3+ / 0-)
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        Lepanto, indubitably, offgrid

        the rest were excluded from impacting the direction we ended up going in

        yeah they had the vote... but in a tainted, corrupted environment where people that would have really shaken things up (e.g., Nader) were shunted aside or assasinated (e.g., Bobby) or died under dubious circumstances (e.g., Wellstone)

        The typical Boomer was just trying to hold down that job while, behind the scenes, the whole job category was going away from outsourcing, policy choices or automation

        the rest of the boomers sucked the tainted teat of the one percent while it was diabolically offered. The suckling opportunities are dwindling. If you have a concscience you abhor the choices the young are shunted into. And why? so a handful of Wallmart heirs can enjoy as much wealt as the bottom half of America.

        Meanwhile...the bloodthirsty politicians plot to squander the rest of the wad on endless, pointless war.

        Reverend Jeremiah Wright was right.

        God Damn America.

        God Fucking Damn to Almighty Hell this Deluded, Barbaric, Sham Democracy  

    •  things are not getting better (3+ / 0-)
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      kyril, ssgbryan, kurt

      expecting that things will play out for your children as they did for your generation is precisely the disconnect that needs to change if we're going to reform this system.

      the kids don;t get the deal you got. their deal is far, far worse in most ways economic. it's not going to get better until people wake up and acknowledge that as a starting point for change.

      •  Did you get a deal that many of us did not get? (2+ / 0-)
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        offgrid, Lepanto

        Except for a very few(those living in the Silicon Valley or New York), most boomers have done nothing but struggle.  Job insecurity, layoffs, stock market crashes, housing busts, aging parents, high education costs for their children, children that are never going to leave home.  They lived life on a credit card and a prayer, if that is your idea of a better life then no it is not coming back.  The next generation has to live within their means, they have to create their own opportunities(which they are very good at, it's a very creative and resourceful group of kids) and they are going to own less stuff and live in smaller spaces.  None of this  is bad....it is just different.

        •  the statistics on this trump your feelings (0+ / 0-)

          every study of generational assets, debts, income and benefits has shown a huge disparity between the boomers and those older than them, and their offspring, who have a starkly worse economic position than the boomers did at their age and in the present. it isn't really debatable, if you look at the numbers.

          yes, incomes stagnated, and the eco omic situation of all non-plutocrat americans has gotten worse over the past four decades. but the pain is not evenly distributed, gen x and especially millennials got hit far, far worse than boomers.

          it is the unwillingness of many boomers to acknowledge this stark generational disparity that enrages young people in these discussions. for people who have some to have people who have less to "live within their means" is incredibly obnoxious.

          •  Generations don't have assets (0+ / 0-)

            People do. Or don't, as the case may be.

            For those who are facing a grim and frightening old age, knowing that other people the same age as you have wealth is not a comfort. No one is going to give you their assets just because you belong to the same generation.

            Don't be so sure you can see the future, either. Very little of what's happened in my lifetime over the decades was predicted by anyone. And the predictions that were made are laughable now.

            •  statistics exist (0+ / 0-)

              and there are vast generational differences in terms of income, assets, and debt. not only in the aggregate, but also in the median.

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