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  •  A background check might save ss many lives? (4+ / 0-)

    The jerk killer at the Navy yard passed a Federal background check when he bought his gun.  Nothing the Senate was proposing would have stopped this.  All he had was a Joe Biden approved pump shotgun.

    •  So nobody looked into his past violence (5+ / 0-)

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...

      Show how even menacing with weapons doesn't mean jail time and a ban from buying weapons.

      In most countries that would be the first thing that happened, a lifetime ban from owning a firearm.

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 10:03:46 AM PDT

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      •  So what are you proposing? (1+ / 0-)
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        Don't you think we should enforce the laws that are already on the books before we consider new ones?  If he had been properly prosecuted and found guilty of  blowing out someone's tires with a gun, he would not have passed the background check.  Our real problem in guns, immigration, you name it is not a lack of laws but a lack of enforcement.

        •  Enforce the existing laws, strengthen them (6+ / 0-)

          where necessary.

          A background check is the minimum, and when caught playing around with guns appropriate action should be taken and fed into a national database.

          If you haven't been stupid with one or have a history of violence your check will be clear.

          "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

          by LaFeminista on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 10:22:30 AM PDT

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          •  I don't understand why (7+ / 0-)

            "strengthening background checks" legislation is so damned difficult to comprehend.

            If you haven't been stupid with one or have a history of violence your check will be clear.
            Why is that a problem to these people?

            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

            by lunachickie on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 10:29:12 AM PDT

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          •  From what I heard this morning (3+ / 0-)
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            He sought help claiming that he was hearing voices in his head that were the result of the govt putting microwave transmitters in the ground to control him.  Or something like that.

            That should have been a major red flag.

            •  Huge. n/t (0+ / 0-)

              "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

              by LaFeminista on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 11:08:26 AM PDT

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              •  Link (0+ / 0-)

                Here is a link to the NBC / USNews site  Plenty of others picked this up too (cnn, reuters, nytimes, etc).

                In the weeks before the attack on the Navy Yard, Alexis reported hearing voices and said that three people were sending vibrations through the ceiling to keep him from sleeping, police said Tuesday.

                Police in Newport, R.I., said that Alexis called them to a Marriott hotel there on the morning of Aug. 7 and reported that he was being followed and was worried that the people were going to hurt him.

                I am no psychologist, but this sounds like paranoid schizophrenia to me.
          •  Laws are enforced but we still have mass (0+ / 0-)

            Murder. People can cross state lines, the laws don't. That's why killers in CHI arm themselves outside city limits where the law is lax.

            See this is about evil rich people making money off of the rest of us.

            nosotros no somos estúpidos

            by a2nite on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 11:41:47 AM PDT

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          •  If he was convicted, his data would've gotten (0+ / 0-)

            entered into the FBI NICS and when he went to buy that shotgun, he would've failed the background check.

            We could argue about what he might've done after that, but the problem here isn't that he bought a firearm with no background check. It was that he was able to clear one (and retain top secret clearance [or whatever level security clearance he had]) even though there were situations where prosecution should have taken place.

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