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  •  Gibson was on Good Morning America (3+ / 0-)
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    just this morning.

    •  Ah, got it (2+ / 0-)
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      I don't watch anything "mainstream media" broadcasts anymore, so I wasn't sure about Gibson :)

      I was gonna call him a fluff merchant, but he's still getting paid for it, isn't he?

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 10:41:50 AM PDT

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      •  Todd and Greggory (6+ / 0-)

        Did they both just start taking suck pills when they were promoted? Or did they get a little "pep talk" from corporate:

        http://www.youtube.com/...

        •  IMO? They've always been Teh Suckz (6+ / 0-)

          they just get paid better now, so they probably did get themselves a bit of a "pep talk", hehe....

          This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

          by lunachickie on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 11:06:46 AM PDT

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          •  I honestly think they were much better (7+ / 0-)

            when Gregory was just a White House reporter. He was a bit of a pit bull in press conferences. Now he is a nauseating regurgitator of corrupt beltway conventional "wisdom."

            Todd was good at campaign analysis. Now he is also a nauseating regurgitator of corrupt beltway conventional "wisdom." They both suck in a bold and new way since their promotions. I'm thinking they had the sit down with Ned Beatty.

            •  When, exactly, did this change? (0+ / 0-)

              Was it really with the first term of the Obama administration?

              That's the kind of context which is pretty important to the big picture. I mean, I hear ya--Gregory used to be a decent reporter (more often than not, anyway). Todd crunched numbers. That, he was good at. What happened? Can we just lay this all on Phil Griffin, trying to counter FOXaganda? I wonder....

              This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

              by lunachickie on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 11:26:21 AM PDT

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              •  I think the system recognizes talent (5+ / 0-)

                and co-opts it for its own ends rather than having that talent seek gratification outside of the system. Squeaky wheels get oil in the form of $ and status. They simply sold out for the sake of their careers. The turning point for Gregory seems to have roughly coincided  with his self-degradation dancing on stage with Karl Rove as he did his horrible rap parody at some stupid fundraiser. David "Dances With Roves" Gregory.

                •  Ahh, yess.... (4+ / 0-)

                  One wonders if he was so upset, they offered him MTP to stroke his considerable ego? Because he got royally lambasted for that shit, as he should have.

                  In that context, that's important as well. Every week, Gregory dishes out a giant F.U. to his detractors and laughs all the way to the next cocktail party after he banks his no doubt considerable paycheck.

                  Whatever floats his boat. The guy may have been a talented reporter, but there's nothing resembling talent in his hosting gig on MTP. It's nauseating, the toady factor. Nauseating. Karma's gonna get him for that, too...

                  This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

                  by lunachickie on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 11:43:11 AM PDT

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                •  David "Dances with Roves" Gregory (0+ / 0-)

                  I like that and I like Chuckles Todd. Pretty much sums up the two, lobbing those softballs.

              •  mainstream media (1+ / 0-)
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                No, it actually began during the Reagan administration.  Once media embarked on a news consolidation frenzy, mainstream news became pretty pointless. There were some pretty dramatic shakeups in the management of mainstream news corporations. Mainstream news has become highly homogenized since then, using very few news sources, representing a single agenda. It isn't government-controlled, but corporate controlled. On a much smaller scale we've seen the influence of the official Dem Party on much of the "alternative/independent" news media, unfortunately, pulling the left to the right.

            •  Yeah, Todd was fine as a numbers guy (3+ / 0-)
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              You can't bullshit as much with numbers.

            •  Thank you and lunachickie both (4+ / 0-)
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              I've been kind of slow to admitting they suck because I used to think they were okay.  Miasmo states exactly how I saw them.  I, too, don't watch much tv (I only watch what I see on the web) so don't regularly see Gregory but on those occasions when I see a clip he's reminding me of why I unplugged from him.  Like when he dismissed Barney Frank's question by asking the guest something else.  I'm more inclined to see it as ego than a talkin' to.  They both believed that it wasn't their job to correct facts but that wasn't something they were called on to do as mere reporters.  It is now and they've never had that belief.  I can't imagine how they got such a belief since I thought that's part of what reporting is about.  But even given that it's the President's job to do that then why aren't they reporting on how Obama has been on a stump correcting those lies and mistakes?  They only keep talking to Tpubs or asking Dem guests about other things.  They never talk about the misinformation with the Dem guests.  It's much like they did leading up to the Iraq war.  The other thing is that tv personalities look for a hook, or angle, that makes them different.  Both these guys are trying to be edgy so they insist on their trajectory.
              This was much longer than I intended. :)

              "When you think about the money spent/on defense by the government/& the weapons of destruction we've built/we're so sure that we need/then you think of the millions that money could feed/How long?" J Browne

              by rainmanjr on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 01:31:09 PM PDT

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              •  Great point! WHY don't they report Obama's (1+ / 0-)
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                "Selling" of ObamaCare? They don't want to. They want to be toadies of the Republican Party.

                But even given that it's the President's job to do that then why aren't they reporting on how Obama has been on a stump correcting those lies and mistakes?

                "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

                by Gorette on Thu Sep 19, 2013 at 01:27:07 PM PDT

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                •  Dems MIA (0+ / 0-)

                  It had always been the role of the Party leadership (Congress) to relay and support the president's agenda. Republicans do this when we have a Republican White House, but Democrats have remained shockingly silent during this administration. Our "bold progressives" have been more like whimpering puppies.

                  •  Real progressives (0+ / 0-)

                    wanted single payer. I think it's a bit much to ask progressives to go out and shill for something that is basically a Republican plan hatched by the ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation. Let Max Baucus and the army of corporate lobbyists he let write the bill go out and sell it.

    •  good for him (2+ / 0-)
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      As is typical, I haven't looked at a broadcast TV screen since I was in a doctor's office last, and even then I ask them to turn that shit off when I'm there.

      The entire profession is about to become irrelevant, and I can't wait.  I'd love to see a bunch of former journalists begging on the fucking sidewalk for handouts.

      •  I would too (2+ / 0-)
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        but unfortunately,

        I'd love to see a bunch of former journalists begging on the fucking sidewalk for handouts.
        a lot of real journos watched their jobs go out the window with the advent of the Toady Stenographer as Journalist in the US. These suckup marquee names would just be joining a whole lot of others.

        Of course, when one is late to the party, the pickins are slim. Maybe by the time these sellouts get to the sidewalk, there won't even be scraps left?

        I hope they understand that, if not already, then soon: they will get to the sidewalk, too. Every last one of them. What I'm looking forward to is watching them come to that realization (while they beg and nobody cares), that they helped bring about their own downfall.  

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 01:49:06 PM PDT

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