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  •  Killer took guards' gun after shooting him. (22+ / 0-)

    According to several of the reports I've read, Alexis targeted the armed guards first, then took their hand guns and used them in subsequent shootings of other persons on-site.  Last report I heard said that he was believed to have entered the premises with only a shotgun, and that he obtained the two handguns from the security personnel -- after he shot them.  

    So, in point of fact, there is evidence to support the fact that a) shooters will in fact target the armed guards first and that b) shooters will then have additional arms with which to kill more people.  

    Doesn't that refute the whole more guns will make us safer thing?  Oh, right, only in the real world, not NRA-Paradise.  

    We are the first to look up and know, with absolute certainty, that the sword we ourselves have forged, is real.

    by Jbearlaw on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 01:41:49 PM PDT

    •  But how did he get the shotgun in there (2+ / 0-)
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      Shreve, whaddaya

      in the first place?

      If the answer is -- because there is nothing unusual about people walking into NAVSEA with shotguns, maybe that policy needs some rethinking.

    •  Disclaimer: Not all details known. (7+ / 0-)

      According to at least one report, Alexis didn't shoot the security guard first, but did so after shooting several other persons.  But that report also confirms that he then took the guards' gun, and used it against other people.  

      I don't what the facts will ultimately be revealed to be, but the point remains the same; more guns don't make us safer.

      We are the first to look up and know, with absolute certainty, that the sword we ourselves have forged, is real.

      by Jbearlaw on Wed Sep 18, 2013 at 01:58:32 PM PDT

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