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  •  Frame-dragging is an aspect of relativity. (8+ / 0-)

    If there were a theory that unified gravity with quantum physics - and that was at least falsifiable, unlike string theory - relativity would be reduced to conditional physics in the same way as Newton's equations.

    Always apart, always asking Why.

    by Troubadour on Thu Sep 19, 2013 at 08:30:04 AM PDT

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    •  relativity (4+ / 0-)
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      ok it's an aspect of relativity; the rotation of the earth drags the atmosphere and various magnetic fields around with it;  space-time it relative.... I think is understood in the public domain now; and tested by Gravity Probe B;

      I haven't read the article you posted yet but like all interesting ultimate scientific theories the debate will go on and on and on and one meanwhile if it is understandable by non -scientists the public will get the new ultimate theory in sci-fi movie plots, video games and comic books before the debate is concluded.... unlike string theory which is hard for non-scientists and scientist alike to understand;

      (Michio Kaku "Beyond Einstein" explains science concepts very well introduced me to string theory making it somewhat understandable.... that __Green guy can't recall his name doesn't explain string theory well; I imagine Dyson explains string theory I'll have to look it up/goggle )

      string theory - all those Orbifolds .... not simple english

           adj : capable of being tested (verified or falsified) by
                 experiment or observation [syn: confirmable, verifiable]

      Gravity Probe B

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      by anyname on Thu Sep 19, 2013 at 08:57:49 AM PDT

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    •  Popper may end up abandoned, (1+ / 0-)
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      or, walked away from a bit.

      See the same Quanta author as here, and also quoting Nima Arkani-Hamed, Is Nature Unnatural?.

      Not what the article is about, directly, but

      1. "Multiverse" explanations are becoming very appealing.
      2. Multiverse explanations aren't falsifiable.
      3. The falsifiable standard gets reconsidered.
      •  I don't think we'll walk away from falsifiability. (7+ / 0-)

        For one thing, something that's not falsifiable can't yield anything useful.  Its value, if any, is purely philosophical.  Ironically, it's the practical sciences that are yielding the most potent insights into theory.  There was an article a little bit ago about materials scientists discovering that the math describing a certain set of superconductor materials provided useful analogs to black holes.  

        Always apart, always asking Why.

        by Troubadour on Thu Sep 19, 2013 at 09:43:33 AM PDT

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