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  •  Kurdistan for the Kurds (5+ / 0-)

    If Kurds in the NE of Syria can carve out an autonomous state the way Iraq's Kurds next door have, that might remove them from the rebellion and leave Assad enough upper hand that he accepts it.

    If there were some way for the Kurds of SE Turkey to get their own autonomy, then they might have pieced back together a Kurdistan across the deliberately destabilizing British borders. Which would itself bring a great deal of peace to the Mideast.

    But I don't see Turkey allowing it. Quite to the contrary, I see Turkey resisting the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds getting a critical mass across the Turkish border. Indeed, I've been surprised Erdogan hasn't done more to prevent the momentum in that direction already. Perhaps it's because of his own deep and wide differences with Turkey's military.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Thu Sep 19, 2013 at 04:17:46 PM PDT

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    •  I read somewhere (2+ / 0-)
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      that the British officer that drew up the maps was unaware that the Kurds even existed.

      Clap On, Clap Off, The Clapper!

      by ActivistGuy on Thu Sep 19, 2013 at 05:27:23 PM PDT

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      •  The British were aware of the Kurds (2+ / 0-)
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        Claudius Bombarnac, david78209

        in what is now Iraq. Since they were aware of the Kurdish region of Iraq I would think it follows that they were aware of the Kurdish lands across the border in eastern Turkey.

        As the French and the British were carving up the spoils of WWI the Brits weren't eager to govern that region of Iraq but they already knew there were significant oil reserves there. This was likely an important reason they included it within the borders of Iraq.

        Orwell - "Political language ... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable"

        by truong son traveler on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 12:32:45 AM PDT

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      •  Likely Story (2+ / 0-)
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        Sounds like a typically British lie.

        In fact, the 1920 Treaty of Sevres specified a Kurdistan, to be defined by a plebicite among the Kurds. It wasn't ratified, and the version that was ratified was superceded quickly by another after the Turkish Independence War required new treaties.

        But the idea that the British conveniently didn't notice the many millions of ethnically consistent people in a longstanding culture right where they were carving up oil franchises, all fully documented by the Ottoman and German empires they'd conquered for that purpose, is a very British and absurd one.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 07:21:01 AM PDT

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