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  •  Americans do not know the facts of the ACA (55+ / 0-)

    Would you agree to that?

    Chuck Todd says it is not his fault - it's Obama's fault for not messaging correctly - do you agree to that?

    The diarist has stated that if Chuck Todd doesn't point out the facts, then he is not providing any service to anybody who could just as easily go on to the internet and find those details out for themselves - do you agree with that?

    If you agree with the diarist assertion - then you are thread jacking with your comment - which is a borderline troll thing to do.

    “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck

    by RichM on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 10:39:01 AM PDT

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    •  I would completely agree that (3+ / 0-)
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      Americans do not know the facts of the ACA.  It's a HUGE bill, and I suspect no one person knows the facts of the ACA.  

      Where I disagree with the diarist is in the diarist's interpretation of what Todd said.  The diarist interpreted Todd's statement to say, "I will not correct blatant objectively provable factual errors."  He did not say that.  Here's what he said:

      During a segment on "Morning Joe," former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D) speculated that most opponents of the Affordable Care Act have been fed erroneous information about the law. Todd said that Republicans "have successfully messaged against it" but he disagrees with those who argue that the media should educate the public on the law. According to Todd, that's President Barack Obama's job.

      "But more importantly, it would be stuff that Republicans have successfully messaged against it," Todd told Rendell. "They don't repeat the other stuff because they haven't even heard the Democratic message. What I always love is people say, 'Well, it's you folks' fault in the media.' No, it's the President of the United States' fault for not selling it."

      Saying that it's not the reporter's job to do "messaging" is not the same thing as saying it's not the reporter's job to correct objectively disprovable factual errors.  

      "Messaging" is taking a fact, and then packaging and spinning it in a way that makes your point more persuasive.  

      And If the public doesn't know the facts about the ACA, it is the role of Democrats to (1) select which facts they SHOULD know more about; and (2) package those facts in a way that make them persuasive.  

      •  Rs haven't successfully messaged against it (22+ / 0-)

        It passed Congress, was signed by the President and was upheld by the Supreme Court. Chuck Todd forgot that part.

        They've messaged against it since its inception, supported by gobs of money and a so-called "grassroots army" known as the Tea Party. They haven't been successful despite the 2010 wave election and millions in untraceable amounts of money. Chuck Todd is wrong and again showed his bias against President Obama.

        There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited. The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. - Sun Tzu

        by OHeyeO on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 11:50:28 AM PDT

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      •  Coffee Talk advocates PR as news (14+ / 0-)

        Public Relations is a nefarious occupation that does exactly what you've described.  The problem is, the White House is constrained from doing that kind of dirty work.

        They don't have the means to astro turf, start whisper campaigns, have paid shills that spew the "messaging" that they want to see.  No armies of basement dwelling cyber bullies to hammer and disrupt civil discourse. No 1/2 Billion dollar war chests to pay for all of this. But the opposition has all of that.   No, what you're talking about is really Propaganda and Chuck Todd just admitted that he is in the business of repeating it.

        The real problem is that Network News and traditional journalism has long been captured by elite/monied interests and only report what they want to be said. Case in point, they are often silent on significant newsworthy events like a million person occupy protest. Or the large protests against austerity in Europe.  Not a peep.

        When the President gives a crucial speech on the ACA, what does fox "news" do? They cut away for some other stupid less important (IMO) fluff story.  When the Secretary of Health and Human Services lays out what's what, do the likes of Chuck Todd bother to report on it other than the secretary had a news conference? When the "moderator" of meet the press repeats a BOLD FACE LIE that the middle class would be suffering a huge tax increase over ObamaCare, the retraction was rather tepid.

        We know that the Administration have frequently touted the benefits of the ACA, ad nauseum. But we don't hear those much on the news. Perhaps because the captured news organizations know not to report those facts.  But you do hear meme's like Death Panel all the time. You hear about Taxes, or losing your health plan all the time. All of which are provably false. Death panels exist under the guise of your insurance company determination of benefits. It's not a Government Death Panel. If anything, the ACA, significantly limits Insurance companies ability to continue that practice.  But do news outlets report on that?  Bueler?

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        by chipoliwog on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 03:54:30 PM PDT

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        •  There is a history of coffeetalk .... (1+ / 0-)
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          Repeating r/w talking points.  I almost picture her as Joe Scarborough's wife.

          When the reality is unpleasant and hard to believe, it's easiest to cloak it in the camouflage of CT.

          by kharma on Sat Sep 21, 2013 at 04:10:49 AM PDT

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      •  So as long as they read the press release CLEARLY, (0+ / 0-)

        journalism's DONE ITS JOB???  O brave new world!

        trying to stay alive 'til I reach 65!

        by chmood on Sat Sep 21, 2013 at 04:22:30 AM PDT

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    •  Why Todd and his ilk cause more damage then Fox. (0+ / 0-)

      Everyone knows that Fox is a right wing propaganda tool that is usually held in contempt by the left. Under the cover of being progressive Todd is given legitimacy,trust and an air of authority.This allows Todd's destructive propaganda to be accepted and not questioned by an audience that Fox will never have.

      Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better,do better. Maya Angelou

      by pipercity1 on Sat Sep 21, 2013 at 08:04:31 AM PDT

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