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  •  the Dem Senate already voted to cut food stamps (4+ / 0-)
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    DRo, Stude Dude, daeros, wonmug

    What was their justification, again . . . . ?

    Goose, say hello to gander.

    There is no argument at all over WHETHER to take food from poor people.  The only argument is over HOW MUCH food to take from poor people.

    I see no justification for that at all, on either party.

    I welcome any explanation from anyone here that justified the Dems cutting food stamps but condemns the Goppers for doing the same thing. (Other than "anything our side does is always OK !!!" or "At least we're not AS shitty as they are !!!")

    •  A pox on both of their houses (3+ / 0-)
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      wintergreen8694, daeros, Odysseus

      There is no justification on either side. I would agree with what dinotrac/LA Times said above that the only solution is to get the economy moving faster and nobody seems very interested in proposing anything on that front.

      •  they can't (2+ / 0-)
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        I would agree with what dinotrac/LA Times said above that the only solution is to get the economy moving faster and nobody seems very interested in proposing anything on that front.
        The economy is now global, made up of and run by huge interconnected global corporations to whom national borders and national economies simply don't exist any more and have no meaning whatsoever.

        In a global economy with supra-national economic entities, the "US government" can't do any more about "the economy" than the "national government" of France or Brazil or Somalia can.

        It's not the 1950's anymore.  It's not even the 1990's anymore. The days when "national governments" could take steps for their "national economy", are gone.  There ARE no "national economies" anymore.

        •  The Northern Europeans still have theirs (1+ / 0-)
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          daeros

          For now.

          But it's probably only a matter of time before the "Free Traders" breech those walls of relative civility and sense of community.

          Because Freedom.

          Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. --Martin Luther King Jr.

          by Egalitare on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 05:55:44 AM PDT

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        •  Oh they can, they can intervene in the economy by (5+ / 0-)

          creating a works progress administration and paying better and training people

          They absolutely can.

          But you're right, the left DOES need to wake up and realizet hat in order to win we'reg oing to have to form labor unions in china, india,  everywhere from the pacific islands to the moon and back and organize for one GLOBAL tax policy that leaves the "Free market" fanatics with no out.

          blackout. we need to learn to play it.

          We don't want one nation. we want them all.

          We want to END the them. All companies sabotaged by renegade workers trying to buy their stocks out and putt hem under workers self management and union control. Etc.

          http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

          by daeros on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 06:03:34 AM PDT

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        •  The good-paying jobs are not coming back. (1+ / 0-)
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          Why would companies like Apple and other tech companies--or any manufacturing, for that matter--want to utilize more expensive US labor?  Also, multinationals like Apple and Cisco are not required to repatriate their foreign profits, and thus pay no US tax on those billions.  They're no longer American companies in any true sense of the word. Our government sold us down the river quite some time ago.  I remember Ross Perot talking about "that giant sucking sound." Profits over patriotism, for a long time now.  Not much talk about producing jobs because they know it's not going to happen.  

          A book must be the axe for the frozen sea within us. Franz Kafka

          by wordwraith on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 09:28:43 AM PDT

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