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  •  I don't think that's the suggestion, I think (14+ / 0-)

    It would be more like this was a beneficial, not necessarily predicted consequence of how we dealt with Syria.

    The way we dealt with Syria may possibly have lead to the presentation of this opportunity, and the Obama admin. was deft enough to seize upon it.

    Not all things are planned, and I don't believe anyone is suggesting they are.  It's being ready for when an opportunity presents itself.

    And the laying of a solid foundation can open many opportunistic doors.

    Imagine the most profound idea ever conceptualized occupying this space. Now expect exactly the opposite. You'll never be disappointed.

    by Gurnt on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 09:44:10 AM PDT

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    •  It might be tho... (3+ / 0-)
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      the suggestion, and possibly right on the mark.

      Poker is the president's game, holding his cards close to the vest, always.

      "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

      by Sybil Liberty on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 10:34:41 AM PDT

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    •  We never know what's being done behind (11+ / 0-)

      closed doors. Obama talked about developing a relationship with Iran during his first campaign for pres. The RW, thinking only of Ahmadinejad (lunatic that he is), laughed at the suggestion. Iran was very much a part of the Syrian situation, as they've been providing arms to Syria. Maybe Iran was included in the negotiations, even if no one reported on it. Diplomacy takes time, and is rarely an accident.

    •  Yeah. (2+ / 0-)
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      Act crazy enough and everyone tends to take a step back. It might have only worked because of our track record of invading countries just for the hell of it.

      Wouldn't that be ironic.

      •  Maybe that will bring Brazil to heel as well. :) (0+ / 0-)

        You never trust a millionaire/Quoting the sermon on the mount/I used to think I was not like them/But I'm beginning to have my doubts -- The Arcade Fire

        by tomjones on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 11:29:30 AM PDT

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      •  Actually I was thinking more along the lines (0+ / 0-)

        of acting like a straigh dealer who can take yes for an answer.

        I think Iran is more inclined to make this overture if they believe they are dealing with somoene who they can trust, to some degree. I by trust I mean trust that we won't just bomb them regardless of what they do.

        Obama's behavior in the Syria situation may suggest to Iran that they may not have need to develop nuke weapons as deterrents, as long as someone with Obama's temperament is in charge.

        Imagine the most profound idea ever conceptualized occupying this space. Now expect exactly the opposite. You'll never be disappointed.

        by Gurnt on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 11:43:04 AM PDT

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        •  I think there's something to that. (2+ / 0-)
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          If I were Iran, when faced with a Bush, I'd rather actually have nuclear weapons, because not having them won't necessarily prevent an invasion, but having them might help fend one off. Having someone who will take yes for an answer makes people surprisingly more likely to say yes. Funny that :-)

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