Skip to main content

View Diary: 13-year-old Indian girl begins Master's degree in Microbiology (32 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Which Indian culture? (3+ / 0-)

    I hope you know there is no one "Indian culture".  There are a million cultures.  In some of them women are indeed oppressed.  In others, they are pretty much equal to men.

    •  The same as one refers to a Chinese culture (0+ / 0-)

      while there are many variations, there are also certain cultural norms.  Otherwise, you are unable to discuss any large aggregation of humans in general terms.  It would be helpful if you would list those groups in India where women enjoy full equality with men and give some idea of the size of the group demographically.  After all, the caste system is not universal among everyone who lives in India but the caste system, though it is eroding, still has an enormous effect upon the majority of people in the country  

      •  That would be the Indian population as a whole. (0+ / 0-)

        Under the Indian system of laws women enjoy full equality with men, the size of demographics are over 1 billion.

        The caste system is something that was codified into law by the English, it has not bearing to the Jati and Varna system that Indian culture actually comprises, but relates more to the social structure of Europe, where birth based class was rigid and not able to be overcome.

        The system has no such effect on the majority of the country, not in the law, not even in the culture.  In fact the only place it comes into play is to secure seats in colleges and government jobs, which aren't quite the 'abuse' you imagine, at least not to the people you imagine you care about.  And marriage of course, an institution where ethnicity, language and culture (which is what makes up the even the modern form of "caste") comes into play in nearly every civilization.

        The enormous effect of caste is more properly found in the minds of those who refuse to bother to educate themselves about the reality of Indian culture, and why their notions that India is a homogenous group of brown folk just doesn't work.  Caste was something that confused most Indians when the English began cataloging it, and it doesn't apply to most Indian populations.  The hierarchy you half learned in your skimming of 19th century literature doesn't apply to most populations in India.

      •  Jaati (0+ / 0-)

        India has many thousands of groups, largely defined by endogamy, and each has its own cultural norms.  Yes, these are getting eroded by urbanization, by India's common system of laws, and so on.  Yes, there are toxic elements especially as tradition morphs as it meets modernity (e.g., the connection between consumerism and dowry).  But it is a very complicated picture.

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site