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  •  I didn't want to get that complex (2+ / 0-)
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    JVolvo, llywrch

    since I reserve complexities and extensive detailing for diaries rather than comments, but yes, you're correct.  

    The point I was trying to make is that much of religious doctrine is based on the ideas of men rather than the teachings of Jesus.

    There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

    by Puddytat on Sun Sep 22, 2013 at 01:55:23 AM PDT

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    •  I wouldn't argue that point (0+ / 0-)

      I forget which expert said it, but there is surprisingly little information about exactly what Jesus' message was. As in, what did he have to say about faith, ethics, etc. There is far more about his death & resurrection--& being a manifestation of God--than about what he said.

      And despite popular belief, one thing he didn't say was that people should be more kind to each other. Most of his most earliest attested & most likely sayings are about people not believing him, fire & brimstone about the End Times, comparisons to the Kingdom of God, & a lot of parables whose meaning in the Gospels is different from non-canonical sources (like the Gospel of Thomas) drawn from an independent tradition.

      Human opinion has acted as a filter on what Jesus said from the beginning of the records. Sorta like how it happens in non-religious matters, such as politics: everyone, including the thoughtful & intelligent, as well as the crazies & the lunatic fringe, have their say.

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