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  •  The problem with Sorkin (2+ / 0-)
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    is that he often uses a lot of beautiful, emotionally charged words that give everything his characters say an outsized importance. When you're writing a show about the presidency, it makes sense, since the stakes are so high. It can also work well even when things are less important, as we saw with The Social Network, but when writing a show about a sketch comedy program, not as much.

    "At this point, if the president came out in favor of breathing, [Republican leaders would] tell their caucus members to hold their breaths."--Jared Bernstein

    by bjssp on Mon Sep 23, 2013 at 08:30:32 AM PDT

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      •  Hmm... (0+ / 0-)

        I've heard that before but don't know what to say about it.

        "At this point, if the president came out in favor of breathing, [Republican leaders would] tell their caucus members to hold their breaths."--Jared Bernstein

        by bjssp on Mon Sep 23, 2013 at 09:58:53 AM PDT

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        •  "It's true, and I feel bad about liking the show"? (2+ / 0-)
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          Taget, geoneb

          Also, every time I see Emily Mortimer, I worry about her Avian Bone Syndrome.

          •  I've never seen "The Newsroom." (0+ / 0-)

            I don't remember anything that stuck out as particularly sexist or amazing in the sense of how dumb he portrayed Republicans on "The West Wing," either.

            But since you mentioned "30 Rock," I will say that Jane K. not getting an Emmy really sucks. She was very underrated on that show, going from normal to zany with ease. The character became cartoonish, but Jane K. kept her eminently watchable. She played right along, no matter what she was asked to do, and the show was much stronger because of it.

            "At this point, if the president came out in favor of breathing, [Republican leaders would] tell their caucus members to hold their breaths."--Jared Bernstein

            by bjssp on Mon Sep 23, 2013 at 10:05:40 AM PDT

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            •  Was Speaker Haffley ever right about anything? (2+ / 0-)
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              Stephen Wolf, geoneb

              Did he ever win?  Was Gov. Ritchie the biggest bozo ever?  Crime, boy, I don't know is when Sorkin decided to take the laziest, most audience-satisfying way through a Presidential reelect, and Arnie Vinick was a liberal's fantasy Republican, not an actual one.

              Loved 30 Rock.

              •  To be fair, Haffley and Vinick were post-Sorkin (1+ / 0-)
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                There were a few times Sorkin portrayed GOPers fairly decently. There was that gay Congressman who Josh spends the whole episode wondering how he could be a Republican, only for Congressman Skinner to give the "I agree with the GOP on most things" speech. There was the Senator who joins with Bartlett on campaign finance despite their disagreeing on everything else. And of course, Ainsley Hayes.  

                23, male, CA-18 (home and voting there), LA-02 (resident).

                by Jeff Singer on Mon Sep 23, 2013 at 10:20:22 AM PDT

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              •  Sorkin wasn't around for Vinick or Haffley. (0+ / 0-)

                At least, not officially. I kind of suspect he came back at the end but never made it public.

                Haffley didn't win the government shutdown stuff because Gingrich didn't. That was the case with a lot of what happened, since Sorkin seemed to be writing, in part, to rehash the Clinton-era battles.

                Also, supposedly, the plan was to have Vinick win, but once John Spencer died, the producers thought it would be too much for fans.

                I seem to remember an episode about a breakfast with Felicity Huffman's character who was a Republican COS or something for the Majority Leader where Toby, et al were outclassed.

                The way he writes for women is certainly a legitimate debate, but for Republicans, not as much. Let's remember that, in the case of "TWW," it concerned people who worked in a Democratic White House. You'd expect them to be partisans.

                "At this point, if the president came out in favor of breathing, [Republican leaders would] tell their caucus members to hold their breaths."--Jared Bernstein

                by bjssp on Mon Sep 23, 2013 at 10:24:52 AM PDT

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