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  •  hmm I don't know about that (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't think there's any thing wrong with the Cleveland Indians. Name, mascot or logo. Im mean their name of the ball club is Indians Nothing offensive about the word. And it's logo has a chief w. a feather on his head, w. a big ass grin.

    If you want to make that argument, then you should say the same thing with Florida State having a Seminole Indian as their logo (most likely someone a Chief Osceola figure) doing a war cry. Same with the Atlanta Braves, and their alternative logo. With "Chief Noc-a-Homa". Albiet Atlanta's is kinda of offensive.

    Now the thing about Florida State University, they have a special relationship with the Seminole Tribe of the State of Florida. And because the tribe has such prestige history in the state, FSU has the permission of the Seminole tribe, to have the mascot of their athletic teams named the Seminoles.

    Just as a disclaimer, I have part Seminole and Creek (Muscogee) Indian heritage.

    NY-9/NJ-10; Russians can give you arms but only the United States can give you a solution. -- Anwar Sadat

    by BKGyptian89 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 at 06:03:09 PM PDT

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    •  Also should note that the logo of the Indians (5+ / 0-)

      named "Chief Wahoo" is depicted as being literally red.  That calls to mind anti-Japanese cartoons from WW2 that depicted them as being literally yellow with buck teeth and horizontal slits for eyes.

      "You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts. You don't hate! Only the unloved hate — the unloved and the unnatural!" -Charlie Chaplin

      by KingofSpades on Wed Sep 25, 2013 at 06:08:53 PM PDT

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      •  The logo may be offensive (1+ / 0-)
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        but nobody isn't complaining about the name. Most people will agree, that Redskin is more offensive than Indian.

        NY-9/NJ-10; Russians can give you arms but only the United States can give you a solution. -- Anwar Sadat

        by BKGyptian89 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 at 06:11:58 PM PDT

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        •  My original point (1+ / 0-)
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          was that I found the Indians' "Chief" mascot to be more offensive than the team name "Redskins."  That mascot was printed on countless caps, t-shirts, baseball cards, bobbleheads, and other baseball paraphernalia for years and years.

          "You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts. You don't hate! Only the unloved hate — the unloved and the unnatural!" -Charlie Chaplin

          by KingofSpades on Wed Sep 25, 2013 at 08:26:43 PM PDT

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    •  *or just to make it know rather (0+ / 0-)

      didn't mean to say disclaimer. Total brain fart on my part.

      NY-9/NJ-10; Russians can give you arms but only the United States can give you a solution. -- Anwar Sadat

      by BKGyptian89 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 at 06:18:38 PM PDT

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