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  •  I don't know about other seniors (12+ / 0-)

    But as a senior on Social Security and Medicare (and having to pay extra for Medicare Part D for the corporate prescription insurance on top of the Medicare Parts A & B which are taken out of Social Security before it's deposited in my account each month), I don't see Obamacare as a threat.

    See my comment below, but with Medicare Part D (which passed under Dumbya) seniors and disabled were told to "buy corporate prescription insurance or else!"  Many seniors and disabled did not immediately buy the corporate insurance plan until they had to (I was one of them).

    That's the model that's been used by the corporations who wrote the legislation for Obamacare, only they changed it to "buy corporate medical insurance or pay a fine of $1000!"  A dutiful Corporate $COTU$ magically made it into a tax, so people are forced to contribute to the future record-setting profit margins of insurance corporations as well as medical and pharmaceutical corporations.

    Medicare Parts A & B are a not-for-profit single-payer medical insurance plan..., and IMHO the rest of the nation should be allowed to buy into it and Congress should change Medicare Part D to be covered under the same plan, not force anyone to buy corporate prescription insurance.

    It could be SO easy and simple..., and because of the increase in paperwork the government would have to hire new employees to handle the paperwork..., and their withholding taxes and ability to spend money because of new jobs would be felt on local, county, state, and federal treasuries, not to mention businesses, within a month of their being hired to handle the extra work.  [What ever happened to "Jobs, jobs, jobs?"]

    So, I may be only one senior, but I just feel sorry for the younger generation who will be trapped into making sure corporations have huge profits when it's so totally unnecessary.  Those who are working already have Medicare deducted, so it wouldn't be like they're getting health insurance for free.  Seniors and disabled have Medicare withheld before Social Security or SSDI are deposited into their accounts as is (right, we do not stop paying into Medicare after retirement or disability).

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Mon Sep 23, 2013 at 05:06:38 PM PDT

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    •  I remember that (2+ / 0-)
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      my mother was trying to sort that out ... she was recovering from cancer surgery, at the time. Died before it took effect, which I think may have been a good thing, because Part D has been a disaster for everyone but the insurance companies.

      (Is it time for the pitchforks and torches yet?)

      by PJEvans on Mon Sep 23, 2013 at 05:20:48 PM PDT

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    •  I think confusion on ACA makes seniors uneasy (0+ / 0-)

      And for that matter, the administration and the centrists have sent so many mixed signals on what their end game is on SS and Medicare that I don't blame them.  

      •  Seniors with all their mental marbles... (0+ / 0-)

        ... know exactly how ACA is going to work for the younger members of their family.  It's patterned on Medicare Part D that came with the instructions to seniors and disabled people "buy this corporate insurance to cover your prescription drugs or else" - except Obamacare has "buy this corporate medical insurance or pay a fine of $1000."  This time they put some teeth in the bill they wrote after they found out seniors and disabled people didn't buy their cockamamie private insurance immediately (and I was one of them; I didn't buy it immediately because I resented the government telling me to contribute to record-setting profits for insurance corporations as well as pharmaceutical corporations).

        When it comes time, the young people who are being forced to buy corporate medical insurance will be assigned to an 'explainer' [I forget the job title I read in the paper], that person will as a bunch of questions, plug the info into the computer, and up will pop a long list of names of insurance companies to choose from.  [That's essentially how I was introduced to prescription drug insurance, at any rate.  It was just after I'd been diagnosed with high blood pressure, so I gave the case worker the names of the drugs, she checked to see if plans covered all of them, and the computer spit out names.]

        This whole medical insurance shift could have been SO much easier if people had been allowed to buy into Medicare and if Medicare Part D was switched to regular Medicare since we pay for it from the time we have our first job until we die (Medicare A&B premiums are withheld from Social Security and SSDI checks before the remainder is deposited in one's account.

        Medicare parts A & B are not-for-profit single-payer medical insurance, paid for by taxpayers.  Everyone should be able to participate in that....... NOT be forced to contribute to record-setting profits for insurance, medical, and pharmaceutical corporations.

        I pity the young people coming up who will be forced to engage in this sham for the sake of corporate profits.  Scams have already started.  I expect it can only get worse in the future.

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 05:44:35 PM PDT

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