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  •  It is not nice to speak ill of the dead, so I (1+ / 0-)
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    won't.
    What I will do is point out that dollars are worthless, figments of the imagination, unless they are spent. Accumulating large hoards and counting them incessantly are obsessive behaviors to which humans may well be prone because the accumulative instinct they share with squirrels and rats and even beavers have been augmented by memory so they don't forget where they've left their stash. As a result, instead of randomly moving on like rodents, humans become fixated on what they have and just keep collecting more. Collecting figments of the imagination, especially in electronic form, is particularly attractive 'cause they don't take up any physical space at all. Pallets of bills being sent to Iraq called attention to themselves. Nobody notices Gates' bank accounts, unless he bruits about their size.

    Note: The way the U.S. system works, nobody knows how much money you have in the bank, unless you tell.

    So, Forbes' 400 are all braggarts.

    •  Calling greedheads braggarts is an ad hominem! (1+ / 0-)
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      It's like calling a vampire squid a blobfish, for gods sake.  How do you expect to further the discussion using such a vile tactic?

      "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi // Question: "succeed" at what?

      by nailbender on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 07:30:54 AM PDT

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      •  No, an ad hominem argument is one (1+ / 0-)
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        that discounts an argument because of some characteristic of the person making the argument.
        To call a person who's bragging a braggart is a direct reference to someone tooting his own horn, which I've been led to believe is entirely acceptable behavior in the U.S.

        •  I discussed this and argued about it with (0+ / 0-)

          people who were actually "ad hominem" attacking me.

          They argue that their ad hominem (attacking me for being fat & old - while staying totally away from the issue that Goldman Sachs & Bain Attorneys lied under oath) - is simply a good way to argue.

          They are conversations killers of the worst kind;
          and I'm glad they can't exist in other realms.

          Wikipedia has a wonderful pyramid illustration by Paul Graham - on the role "ad hominem" plays in debating.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/...


          Mitt Romney was CEO of Bain until Aug 2001. Proof of Bain & Romney Fraud

          by laserhaas on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 09:04:41 AM PDT

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        •  Your irony detector is broken. (1+ / 0-)
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          And your lexicon is pretty beat up as well, although you did alter your definition of ad hominem so that it almost makes sense now.  

          Maybe you didn't read the second link in my parent post above?  

          "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi // Question: "succeed" at what?

          by nailbender on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 06:16:57 PM PDT

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        •  Oh, just a note: "greedheads" is an ad hominem. (0+ / 0-)

          That didn't tip you off that it was snark?

          "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi // Question: "succeed" at what?

          by nailbender on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 06:20:06 PM PDT

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      •  I have to concur with Hannah on this issue (0+ / 0-)

        though I do see your point.

        Your finding of facts and conclusions of law (or issues) is errant. Especially in this particular case.

        Such as the FACT where Mitt Romney boasted he makes millions of dollars each year from Bain Capital.

        Thus, if Bain Capital benefited from fraud,
        so has Pitten's.

        It is not a "vile" tactic - nor is it ad hominem;

        when your telling the truth!


        Mitt Romney was CEO of Bain until Aug 2001. Proof of Bain & Romney Fraud

        by laserhaas on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 08:53:34 AM PDT

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        •  I DON'T DO SIDEWAYS SMILEY FACES!!! (0+ / 0-)

          Occasionally I think about making that my sig line.  

          Read the second link in the parent post.

          "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi // Question: "succeed" at what?

          by nailbender on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 06:13:59 PM PDT

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