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  •  Turkey is a pretty good model for a modern (7+ / 0-)

    Muslim nation - rules to enforce a secular society, member of NATO, technologically advanced, and so on.

    Indonesia is getting there.

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    by blue aardvark on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 10:55:30 AM PDT

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    •  The best, though they're not a theocracy (2+ / 0-)
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      by any means.

      While you dream of Utopia, we're here on Earth, getting things done.

      by GoGoGoEverton on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 11:14:25 AM PDT

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    •  Turkey does not have free speech or press though. (1+ / 0-)
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      You still can't criticize or mock Kemal (Atatürk) or Kemalism in any way.

      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ☮ ♥ ☺

      by lotlizard on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 12:57:46 PM PDT

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      •  Imagine how much fun you'd have had (0+ / 0-)

        mocking George Washington in the United States in 1870 or thereabout. De facto versus de jure, but maybe not that different.

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        by blue aardvark on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 01:03:23 PM PDT

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        •  Poem by Cynthia Bullock (A Cluster of Roses, 1877) (1+ / 0-)
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                      WASHINGTON.

              [In Irving’s “Life of Washington” occur the words, “a ray of light was shining.” This passage suggested the thoughts that follow.]

                      Hope faded, and the zealous glow
                      Of country’s love seemed burning low;
                      And hostile armies, fierce and strong,
                      Swept the dark wilderness along —
                      One ray of light shone dimly on
                      The gloomy path of Washington.

                      It nerved his soul with vigor new,
                      Hope danced athwart his darkened view;
                      The God of battles heard his prayer,
                      Glad victory crowned the Delaware.
                      What glorious deeds of valor bright
                      Sprung from a single ray of light !

                      He labored on still undismayed
                      With trusting heart, while overhead,
                      Through clouds of battle rolling dark,
                      He still beheld that sacred spark;
                      It lured him on, till splendor shone
                      On the bright path of Washington.

                      Exulting nations hailed its birth,
                      A new republic sprung to earth;
                      The tree of liberty rose high —
                      Its banner floated through the sky ;
                      There brightly, gloriously shone
                      The sacred name of Washington.

                      ’Neath its green branches millions rest;
                      Aye, from the north, east, south, and west,
                      Sons of oppression hail afar,
                      Beacon of hope, Columbia’s star.
                      Where rolls the sea or sets the sun
                      There lives the fame of Washington.

                      Our Washington, dear honored name,
                      Of spotless life and deathless fame —
                      The Christian hero, meet to be
                      The champion of our liberty !
                      Ages unborn shall rise as one,
                      And hail our sire, our Washington.

          We might like to think the phenomenon of a "cult of personality" only forms around figures like Mao Zedong. As you point out, we would be wrong.

          The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ☮ ♥ ☺

          by lotlizard on Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 02:45:57 PM PDT

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        •  And alas, the item below is also typical of Turkey (1+ / 0-)
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          http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/...

          World-renowned Turkish pianist Fazıl Say, who was sentenced to 10 months in prison for blasphemy in April, was again sentenced to 10 months by an Istanbul court today in a retrial.

          Say had received a suspended 10-month prison sentence on charges of “insulting religious beliefs held by a section of the society,” for re-tweeting several lines, which are attributed to poet Omar Khayyam.

          The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ☮ ♥ ☺

          by lotlizard on Wed Sep 25, 2013 at 12:46:10 PM PDT

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