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  •  Democrats do the exact same thing. (4+ / 0-)
    What I also know is that gerrymandering, among other factors, has created a Republican House majority where virtually all its members have nothing to fear from being seen as too right-wing, in particular on fiscal/spending issues.
    Republicans just do it better.   Here in NJ, the Democrats are fine with "safe" Congressional districts.   Until all districts are competitive, Congress will continue to be polarized and gridlocked.    

    I'm not a misanthrope, I'm just very selective about who I'm willing to waste my time on.

    by SpamNunn on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 02:26:39 PM PDT

    •  Exactly. (6+ / 0-)

      It's not like Republicans invented gerrymandering in 2010.  Elected officials have always considered the political implications of drawing district lines.  Democrats do not complain about the safe Democratic districts, such as those created when minority-majority districts are created (sometimes by drawing lines that have no rhyme or reason other than to put minority voters in one district).  

      Republicans won state elections in 2010.  In the state elections at that time, Republicans realized that control of state government would mean control of district lines after the 2010 census, while Democrats for some reason did not focus on this fact.  That was  (in my view) the most under-reported aspect of the 2010 elections -- that Republicans deliberately went after state elections in that year and were very successful. That's why Democrats are now complaining -- not because Republicans just invented gerrymandering (they did not) but because this last go-round, Republicans controlled the gerrymandering and used it to their advantage.  This, too, falls under the category "elections have consequences."  

    •  It's not JUST gerrymandering. (0+ / 0-)

      It's gerrymandering (and other factors) that create safe enough seats to reward crazy extremism. But of course you could have safe seats and not have extremism. Unfortunately for the country, Republicans have both.

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