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  •  I don't understand this... (0+ / 0-)
    They might also shorten the temporary funding by a month, to just Nov. 15, to come back and try to reverse the sequester on the next bite.
    If they are going to do anything, they should be extending the temporary funding!  Do we really need to go through all this again in less than two months?  I don't see how we can get a sequester reversal from the House Republicans.  They will just use the upcoming government shutdown (now coming in November) to bargain over the debt ceiling in October.  And it gives the White House cover to say "we're not negotiating on the debt ceiling" (wink, wink) while they are negotiating on the government funding which is going to be up in November.  I just don't see how anything good can come from shortening the funding.
    •  The issue is that Democrats want to repeal (12+ / 0-)

      the sequester and we know there are at least 30-40 Republicans that would like to do the same.  Given that next year's sequester is going to hit the military hard, there is an opportunity for the Democrats to negotiate with enough House Republicans to end the sequester.  Now that Obamacare fever is about to break, Boehner and the non-hardcore tea partiers will be looking at positioning themselves to retain their majority.  The sequester has hurt their ratings and made them vulnerable to a Democratic takeover.  They also do not have the same type of money they used to, because the tea party groups are sucking all the oxygen out of the room.  For that reason alone, Boehner may be willing to suspend the Hastert rule.  For his part, Obama has an interest in getting a mini-grand bargain passed that would substantially increase domestic spending priorities focused on millenials in exchange for some tax and entitlement reform.  It will not likely include social security, but tax reform and adjustments to medicare are probably on the table. I would welcome that type of grand bargain, as it would end the budget wars for the remainder of Obama's term, lock in the structural changes he has made to the economy, and redirect government investment towards younger folks and away from seniors (who don't seem to want it anyway based on how they voted in 2012).

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      by khyber900 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 at 10:55:37 AM PDT

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      •  Opposition to Obamacare won't end until the Kochs (2+ / 0-)
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        stop funding it. They can continue to put up disinformational TV ads for as long as they please, and fund guys like Cruz who put on clown media shows against it.

        That won't stop the law from being the law, but the Koch/ALEC strategy seems to be taken from voter suppression techniques: mess up the execution of the law by feeding people lies. Sow as much confusion as possible, and then blame the confusion on Obamacare itself.

        They want to sabotage Obamacare by any means, because there must be no institution in the US that might conceivably cause people to like the government: that would be dangerous to the Koch brothers' wealth.

      •  I hope your right... (0+ / 0-)

        I just don't see it turning out like that.  As for the mini-grand bargain, I'm split.  While it would be nice to increase domestic spending (especaily if it locked it in to the end of Obama's term), I don't know if it is worth the likely outcomes of "reform".  At least right now we know what were dealing with, the unknowns of the outcome of a tax & entitlement reform negotiation are a little scary.

      •  Good explanation (n/t) (0+ / 0-)

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        by Joan McCarter on Wed Sep 25, 2013 at 11:53:38 AM PDT

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    •  Ah, but it would have a better chance of working (2+ / 0-)
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      if it came up sooner rather than later.

      Piss off people. Make them think they're not going to get their pension checks, or their food stamps, or their govt contracts (that's the real biggie here).

      Every time they have to vote on this crap they get hammered from all sides. And every time a few more not quite so crazy Republicans get peeled off.

      It makes the others look that much crazier.

      Besides, it makes the big money go nuts thinking that the crazies might actually blow up the economy, and THEY put the pressure on.

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