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  •  What do you mean by "threatened default"? (0+ / 0-)

    If by "threatened," you mean saying, "if I had my way, we would not raise the debt ceiling," that's happened a lot.  Any time a Senator or Congressman votes against raising the debt limit, he/she is voting for the United States to default.  So, many people on both sides of the aisle (including then-Senator Obama) have voted against raising the debt limit, which -- if he had gotten a majority on his side -- would have meant default.  It is true that, even though his vote would have meant default if he had had a majority voting with him, he did not have a majority voting with him.  (The President has recognized that his "no" vote was a mistake.)

    If by "threatened" you mean "If I had my way, we would not raise the debt ceiling AND I may have a majority voting no with me" this is the first time in recent memory that those voting no may have enough votes to constitute a majority in one chamber.

    •  the democratic party threatened to force a default (5+ / 0-)
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      in what year?

      Sarah Palin is a disgusting racist pig.

      by memofromturner on Thu Sep 26, 2013 at 09:10:48 AM PDT

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      •  memof - I think she answers that question here (0+ / 0-)

        it's up in the same stream if you want to click the links.

             Actual facts matter here.

            In modern times, a "clean bill" raising the debt ceiling, without opposition and without demands by the party that does not have the White House, has not really been the norm.  It started in 1953, during the Eisenhower administration, when he had opposition from Sen. Byrd. Ss another example, in 1973, Sen. Kennedy and Sen. Mondale tried to attach campaign finance reform to the bill.   Clean bills have happened, of course, but it's not factually accurate to say, or even to imply, that it's essentially unprecedented for one side to try to attach other provisions to an increase in the debt ceiling.  

            See here and here.  See a more comprehensive history here.

            I suspect that Speaker Boehner would point to those facts in support of his statement. He probably is stretching things a bit, but of course (as those links point out) so is the Administration.

            by coffeetalk on Thu Sep 26, 2013 at 08:31:05 AM PDT

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Thu Sep 26, 2013 at 03:51:06 PM PDT

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