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  •  What I support (3+ / 0-)

    I recognize that our constitution give us the right to own and use guns.  I do not agree that the constitution gives us unlimited use of any and all weapons.

    I support and advocate:
    1) ALL gun licensee should demonstrate they have received training in gun use and safety.
    2) ALL gun licensees should demonstrate they have a liability insurance policy to cover liabilities arising from their ownership/use of a gun.
    3) Increased tax on gun and bullet sales to help offset medical costs borne by tax-payers from gunshot injuries and deaths.
    4) For any shooting incident, police should be directed to hold the gun owner/shooter until blood and urine samples can be collected for alcohol and drug testing.
    5) Background checks on ALL firearm purchases, including private sales
    6) Limit legal gun sales to breech-loading rifles and pistols, revolver-type handguns, semi-automatic handguns with a capacity less than ten bullets, long rifles with a caliber less than 0.45, semi-automatic assault style guns with a capacity of less than ten bullets, and shotguns.  Anyone who wants/needs more firepower should agree to join a branch of the military to learn about and use those weapons under strict supervision.

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Sat Sep 28, 2013 at 10:29:44 AM PDT

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    •  Thus, you are in favor of banning guns. (1+ / 0-)
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      Banning a lot of guns, in fact.

      Good luck with that.

      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

      by FrankRose on Sat Sep 28, 2013 at 10:56:20 AM PDT

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      •  The US ALREADY bans guns (0+ / 0-)

        Under current US law, many guns are banned.  Not just sale of those guns, but use as well.

        The law works just fine - the society does not collapse because many guns are banned.

        You are living in a gun fantasy world.

        "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

        by Hugh Jim Bissell on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 06:29:06 AM PDT

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        •  No.....I'm living in the current USA (0+ / 0-)

          Your little wishlist is the fantasy.
          A fantasy that costs the party dearly when the party is foolish enough to indulge it.

          Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

          by FrankRose on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 11:17:49 AM PDT

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          •  Guns are banned in the current USA (1+ / 0-)
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            And I say again: many guns ARE BANNED in the USA today.  Indeed, it is probably true that there are many more weapons that you are not allowed to own or use under current US law than weapons that you are allowed to own and use.

            These laws that already ban many guns here in the USA are not a problem for the country; the bans do not result in hoards of dark-skinned evil-doers invading your homes and raping your women; nor are the camo-wearing militia troglodytes crawling out from under their rocks to march on Washington and take over the government.

            The only draw-back of these existing gun bans is that you have less chance to make boom-boom with your hot metal love object.

            As for the democratic or republican party - I could not care less.  Neither party represents my political interests.

            "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

            by Hugh Jim Bissell on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 06:52:07 AM PDT

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            •  No? (0+ / 0-)

              Good thing, but I never took my sis-in-law as a "dark skinned evil doer", I guess I had better take back the shotgun I gave her & her family & quit taking her sons out to the rifle range.
              ......or perhaps you should try joining us in reality instead of your naive little fantasy world.

              Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

              by FrankRose on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 08:22:45 AM PDT

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              •  I guess you do not like your sister-in-law much (1+ / 0-)
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                Fun fact to know and tell: residents in a home where there is a gun are twice as likely to die in a gun homicide as residents in a home where there is no gun - and women residing in a home where there is a gun are THREE TIMES more likely to die in a gun homicide than women who live in a home where there is no gun ('cause women get murdered at higher rates by the men in the house and having a gun around makes murder easier).

                I guess you do not like you sister-in-law very much - you gave her a gift of blood and death.

                Another fun/gun fact to know and tell: a gun in the home is seven times more likely to be used to shoot a resident in the home than a non-resident criminal intruder.

                Your thoughtfulness and generosity to your brother's family is a wonder.

                "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

                by Hugh Jim Bissell on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 08:33:28 AM PDT

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                •  Then don't own one. (0+ / 0-)

                  You don't think you can handle the responsibility & I am persuaded to agree with you.
                  You likely can't.

                  However, I will take my sis-in-law's assessment of her responsibility over your admittedly ignorant opinion.

                  Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                  by FrankRose on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 09:02:31 AM PDT

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    •  Rilfes with less than 0.45?? (0+ / 0-)

      So you would ban all modern common hunting rifles? Such as the 30-30 or 30-06? Well there goes the "but we approve of hunting" bullshit. And wonder why there is no trust....

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