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  •  They've gained massive ground on abortion. (16+ / 0-)

    You must be a man. We're rallying in Columbus on Wednesday because of the huge amount of damage done to women's rights here in Ohio already — and they're proposing more.

    Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

    by anastasia p on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 09:33:15 PM PDT

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    •  "You must be a man..." (9+ / 0-)

      Ugly, divisive identity politics that fractures the party, rather than building support.  Sadly you weaken your own political agency in saying such things because who wants to support those who say this sort of stuff?  A charitable reading of patbahn's remark would have been that public support for women's reproductive rights continues to grow, creating the possibility for the formation of strong coalitions to fight the sort of legislation you're pointing at.  Instead you chose to vilify the person you were responding to.  Nice.

    •  what's the supreme court said? (1+ / 0-)
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      despite their putting a 30 year full court press on
      abortion, between  Roe and Casey?

      They've managed to go from "Strict Scrutiny" to
      "IUndue Burden" which is a  intermediate scrutiny
      standard, and they've gotten D&E moved into a regulatable

      What have they won on?  Plan B?  Nope.  
      Plan A? Nope, condoms are over the counter and
      contraception is in Obamacare.

      They've made progress on TRAP and shutting down
      abortion clinics, so, it's a problem getting an abortion in western kansas or mississippi, but, they aren't going
      anywere in California.

      more kids are having sex and fewer are becoming pregnant.

    •  I think he/she means haven't outlawed abortion. (1+ / 0-)
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      Which is what they really want of course.

      "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

      by Gorette on Sat Sep 28, 2013 at 10:44:43 AM PDT

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